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China Deserves Even More Than 10 Tournaments 10 12.20%
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Your Thoughts: TEN XWTA, 12 ITF Events In China & Chinese Territories In 2014 ???

Ten Years Ago the only XWTA in China was a MM tournament in Shanghai

But with Stacy at the wheel , the XWTA has capitalized on booming investment and interest in tennis in the country and will offer the following ten tournaments in 2014

PM 1000
Beijing

P5 900
Wuhan (NaNa Invitational)

MM 280
Shenzhen
Hong Kong
Guangzhou
Tianjin (Shuai Peng Invitational)

BM 160
Nancheng
Suzhou
Ningbo
Taipei

With such a long tour in China, it is no longer prudent for the players to not play in China

Looking forward to seeing even more tournaments in 2015

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Re: Your Thoughts: Ten XWTA Events In China & Chinese Territories In 2014 ???

That's way too much. Soon we will call the Tour WTASIA, not XWTA.

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There are not nearly enough.

Work on it $tacey!

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Will make women tennis irrelevant within a decade in Europe/North America.
They aren't even spread through Asia, it's only in one country that hasn't really shown any real interest in women tennis outside of Na Li.
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Will make women tennis irrelevant within a decade in Europe/North America.
They aren't even spread through Asia, it's only in one country that hasn't really shown any real interest in women tennis outside of Na Li.
they are spread

Seoul, Tokyo, Osaka, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Pattaya will also host events

not to mention Baku and Tashkent

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Re: Your Thoughts: Ten XWTA Events In China & Chinese Territories In 2014 ???

btw anybody have a list of the other XWTA tournaments that Stacy killed off in order to have this many tournaments in China

I guess

Tokyo for Wuhan
Berlin (?) for Beijing
Brussels (?) for Tianjin

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Re: Your Thoughts: Ten XWTA Events In China & Chinese Territories In 2014 ???

One country should not be alowed to host more than 1 tournament per category.
But, because not all countries are same size and there, i would alow a more tournaments of lower categorys.
1 GS
1 Masters/Tier1/PremierM&5
1-2* Premiers/ATP500,
2-4* Internationals,
*depending of the amount of tournaments of higjher category already held.
As for 125k WTA Challengers, 100&125K ATPCH, and 100k ITF's, also 2-4....


Bunch of MMs in China(wta) and France(ATP) are realy annoying....

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by that logic, the USA would have to get rid of 2 of 3 between Indian Wells, Miami and Cincy

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Re: Your Thoughts: Ten XWTA Events In China & Chinese Territories In 2014 ???

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btw anybody have a list of the other XWTA tournaments that Stacy killed off in order to have this many tournaments in China

I guess

Tokyo for Wuhan
Berlin (?) for Beijing
Brussels (?) for Tianjin
Berlin was killed for Madrid

Though, i reember first 2009. calendar released, Berlin was supose to be Premier with Warsaw/Brussels slot.

Beijing killed T1 Moscow or Zurich, or both, i gues...

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by that logic, the USA would have to get rid of 2 of 3 between Indian Wells, Miami and Cincy
Yes. And i don't see anything bad in that.
Stick with Miami, with longest tradition. AT least in WTA, Coincy, and even IW are new.

Though i would make an exeption and save Miami and IW both:P

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And by the way, it is interesting how Americans(amongst other, of corse) whine abot bunch of MM's in China, but it is ok with them that most of the history they monopolised both tours. Well, there is someone that has money to, now.

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Berlin was killed for Madrid

Though, i reember first 2009. calendar released, Berlin was supose to be Premier with Warsaw/Brussels slot.

Beijing killed T1 Moscow or Zurich, or both, i gues...
both Moscow and Zurich died for Beijing

wasn't Berlin supposed to comeback

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XWTA Non-Chinese Faves - Crawford Ivanovic Kvitova Muguruza Riley
Tennis Tipping GOATs - HAOCHEN-GOAT SAISAI-GOAT, Doubles Champs XWTA Wuhan P5 900
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And by the way, it is interesting how Americans(amongst other, of corse) whine abot bunch of MM's in China, but it is ok with them that most of the history they monopolised both tours. Well, there is someone that has money to, now.
yes exactly the USA historically had way too many events, especially with the whole summer hardcourt season being in USA

most of the whining about China here is done by the Europeans who always bring up the "history" of old tournaments

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This thread fails cause there's no tournament in Nanjing, it has been replaced by Nanchang

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