Originally Posted by Volcana
Justine is the #4 ranked player, and justifiably so. However, if you actually care why anyone treats Lindsay like the 'real' #4, look at ALL the tournaments, not just the top 17.
Justine has played 21 tournaments in the past 12 months, accumulating 3608 points. She had four 1st match losses.
Lindsay has played 15 tournaments in the past 12 months, accumulating 2911 points. She had one 1st match loss.
On a points per tournament basis,
Justine earns 171 ppt
Lindsay earns 194 ppt
Justine won the last time they played.
Lindsay won every other time they played (Last time Zurich '02).
H2H 5-1 Lindsay
Lindsay does better on average in every tournament she plays, and is much less likely to have a bad outing and lose early.
There's also the 3 GS titles and being Year End #1 three times.
Justine is, in point of fact, the #4 ranked player.
Lindsay is, IMHO, the fourth BEST player.
You either look at the rankings or career's achievements.
Yes, Davenport has a better per tournament average, but the ranking system is NOT an average system.
Also, that includes Justine playing most tournaments on her worst surface (hardcourt) and Davenport has played none on hers (clay).
The head-to-heads are irrelevant for ranking purposes.
Ending the year # 1, GS titles, what does it have to do with current rankings?
if that was the case, then Iva Majoli, Conchita Martinez, Mary Pierce should be ranked ahead of Justine and Kim and Monica Seles should be the # 1 player of the world right now
Lindsay does better than average?
well, this year Davenport has played 6 tournaments:
finals Sydney and Indian Wells
fourth round Miami (injured)
fourth round Australian Open
first round (with a first round bye) Scottsdale.
Justine has played 5 tournaments
semis: Australian Open, Sydney, Antwerp
quarters Miami (she is still playing).
if the rankings were based on history, then when Martina Navratilova briefly returned to the tour in Eastbourne last year she should have been ranked # 1, after all she's won 18 GS singles titles and by weeks at # 1 she is second to Steffi Graf in history
Also, why do those comparissons apply to Justine and not Kim? other that your desire of always disminishing what Justine does I can't see why Davenport's 3 GS and ye # 1 don't count against her.
Too bad Martina Hingis is not playing, it would be very interesting to see how you would rate her against Serena.