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Lindsay Davenport 14 13.33%
Venus Williams 5 4.76%
Serena Williams 17 16.19%
Monica Seles 13 12.38%
Jennifer Capriati 16 15.24%
Kim Clijsters 10 9.52%
Justine Henin-Hardenne 29 27.62%
Amelie Mauresmo 1 0.95%
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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old Feb 26th, 2003, 01:04 AM Thread Starter
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Who's worked the hardest to get to where they are?

All of the top players have done an amazing job to get at the top, but who in your opinion (objectively) has done the most to get to where they are/where?
I believe Lindsay has done the greater job. As Chris Evert said, she was supposed to be a nobody. Noone would give a damn penny for her back in 96', only until she won the Olympics and loss a LOT of wheight became a top player where she's been N 1# and have won three GS already.
Monica with her comeback would count a lot. So as Venus and Serena who have came from down under to the top top and challenged many obstacles.

But my most objective opinion says Lindsay.... who the one for you?
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sorry I forgot about Jen. She's done an amazing job as well...
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post #3 of 28 (permalink) Old Feb 26th, 2003, 01:26 AM
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Venus and Serena. Richard Williams not knowing a damn thing about tennis, watching tennis videos to learn the game himself and teach the game to his daughter. Compton California isnt exactly a hotbead for the tennis community either. His girls shutting everyone up, (I remember when people swore by the book that neither Williams sister would ever win a slam). It proves that no matter what so called "big money" you come from that you can do anything you put your mind to. Much respect for Richard Williams also, because of all the flack that African-American males get as mostly "deadbeat dads" here is a shining example of a man who was thoughly interested in his daughters future.
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post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old Feb 26th, 2003, 02:23 AM
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Lindsay wins hands down, i think Joh McEnroe said that "When i see some one like Lindsay, who isn't the best athlete but is able to reach the top the old fashioned way, with hard work and dedication i am truly inspired"
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Lindsay is wonderful. Hard-working. A champion inside & out.
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as a fan on lindsay, i agree that she deserves to be where she is.... however at the same time i'm also amazed at how serena has managed to overcome moments of the match where she was down... especially on extremely crucial points...
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The first time i really notice Justine was the 4th round ? of the 2000 US Open against Lindsay. I knew she was gonna be good because of that backhand. When I watch that match and see her now I am amazed at how she has come a long way.



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This is a very difficult poll simply because personal problem/challenges are difficult to compare. every black person understands how tough it is to compete in an environment in which you have to work twice as hard to get recognition, and criticized harder for wrongs you make. venus and serena have coped quite well. Seles' story is hearwrenching and you have got to admire how much she has accomplished despite it all.
Jen made mistakes that many people would have been happy to just lay low and away from the media but it must have taken tremendous courage just to keep going. The so called media that loved her the last two years have turned on her. There has been no hesistation to show her at her worst not to mention the weight issue in australia. No woman wants to be told she is fat/overweight (lindsay's problem earlier). It simply destroys your confidence which you need it most when all the cameras are turned on you and you are supposed to play at your best.
Both justine and amelie have had personal challenges and from what we know looks like kim has had the most stable 'normal' supportive background that should sure gurantee success.
Their personal stories are that much more impressive considering that these are all very young women,others still in their teens.
As for their hard work regarding their games, i believe they all work hard (differently though)coz different stroke s for different folks.
For me as an older fan, the williams sisters really impress me with how they can keep fighting hard knowing they have very little crowd support even in their own hometown. that has got to hurt!

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Most of Big Lindsays career she has been in less than admirable shape, in fact the reality of the way she looks now is evidence that she wasn't working her hardest most of her career. She coasted on talent and size.

Now Serena on the other hand has been a brickhouse her whole career so I would almost give her the nod (if Venus hadn't blazed the whole trail for her), but...

...in a shocker I give it to J Cap because she was raised as a true tennis robot and played the juniors and did it all by the prodigy book (which puts her ahead of Lindsay because she's always been fitter and ahead of the most famous female athletes in the world because she actually endured the rigors of the juniors while the most famous female athletes in the world got to play with dolls) then fell off the edge of the earth with her crime and drug issues and had to start all over again to reach those same heights.

The others don't rate with J Cap (I won't take the time to deliver any comments that would piss off their respective fans, although one of them isn't a fighter - heh heh).

I don't necessarily think she is still working the hardest but over her career it I would pick J Cap.

If I had to say who is currently it would be Serena, she has made herself the strongest, fittest player with the biggest fighting heart (no one contests every point and won't give up on a ball like Mama Smash) she has improved her game (especially mentally) more than anyone else has in the last 3 years and there are signs that it is still improving (unless everyone else is just getting worse...).

If your fave's coach isn't Richard Williams, that's just her first problem...

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Justine. I mean, she IS talented, but she has worked very well that beautiful backhand. Carlos Rodriguez tough her well too

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post #12 of 28 (permalink) Old Feb 26th, 2003, 08:27 AM
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I will say Justine Henin-Hardenne. Given her personal life background, Justine has come a long way through her hardwork to be what she is today. She deserves my respect.
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post #14 of 28 (permalink) Old Feb 26th, 2003, 12:45 PM
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Justine 'cause her personal probs in her youth and she trains and improves every year. Ok she's forced to do this because she's small ...
But all the players are working very hard so I think we must admire them al because of there willpower

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