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JJ would star in Almodovar movies and be the muse to many contemporary fashion designers.

I can see Sharapova working as a traffic sign or as a prop in a Hollywood studio. (Hard to imagine her as something animate).

Marion would work in the CERN.

Aga could work in a Paris nightshop, but not in its nice districts though.

And Sam would be the ruthless bodyguard of an Italian maffia boss, wearing only kinky leather outfits and high heels.

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Sharapova, any of the following:
A) High jumper, model wannabe and entrepeneur wannabe.
B) Triple jumper, model wannabe and entrepeneur wannabe.
C) Long jumper, model wannabe and entrepeneur wannabe.
D) Basketball player, model wannabe and entrepeneur wannabe.
E) Volleyball player, model wannabe and entrepeneur wannabe.

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JCap would have been a (bad girl) WWE wrestler....

Vakulenko would have been in a religious cult....

Peppermint Patty would have been married to a fraudster....

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Sharapova would work at the convenience store as a checkout girl somewhere in North Asia.
Azarenka would work in factory of tractors in Minsk.
Li would work as journalist.
Serena and Venus would work in a market too.
Bartoli would be a baker.

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A starlet perhaps. Though, in Serbia, that word means - A gold digger without any talent whatsoever.
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trust me dear, if it wasn't for the wins against venus and serena, sloan wouldn't be relevant at all. because she always lose to non-black players then play lights out against blacks.
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Sharapova and her family would could very well be struggling in Sotchi.
People forget how much tennis changed her life.

She's not from one of these upper middle class family where the tennis kid would've taken over the family business had his/her tennis dream failed or something.
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Sharapova and her family would could very well be struggling in Sotchi.
People forget how much tennis changed her life.

She's not from one of these upper middle class family where the tennis kid would've taken over the family business had his/her tennis dream failed or something.
I think this applies to a greater or lesser extent to all the players. I mean, a few are quite smart and have college degrees or some such, but at best this would get them some nice corporate job with a company car, but nothing remotely like the astronomical amounts they currently earn.

Anybody who thinks that any of these women would have made a successful career in fashion design/acting/modelling/etc. without the fame they have achieved in their tennis careers is in serious need of a reality check. Pastry chef sounds about the right level for most of them.
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I think this applies to a greater or lesser extent to all the players. I mean, a few are quite smart and have college degrees or some such, but at best this would get them some nice corporate job with a company car, but nothing remotely like the astronomical amounts they currently earn.

Anybody who thinks that any of these women would have made a successful career in fashion design/acting/modelling/etc. without the fame they have achieved in their tennis careers is in serious need of a reality check. Pastry chef sounds about the right level for most of them.
I don't agree Actually I think that many of these women would be successful in any job they would choose. They got where they are not only by having a tennis talent. It was an important factor, but more important was hard work, dedication, great work ethics, making smart career decisions, finding right people to train them, sponsor them, managing their affairs etc. They've managed to avoid the usual traps waiting for very young people who make good money very quickly, so they have a lot of good sense. They also know how to pursue a goal and they like winning.
You are right saying that they wouldn't probably make such money as they are making now, but I believe that many of them would have good, interesting careers. Maybe even as pastry chefs, but with their own chains of restaurants

And as for other posters referring to Aga, most of doctors would tell you that the most important thing in their education was hard work, learning by heart of thousands of latin names, symptoms, chemical formulas etc. plus practice, practice and again practice. So I wouldn't count Aga out as a surgeon.
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I don't agree Actually I think that many of these women would be successful in any job they would choose. They got where they are not only by having a tennis talent. It was an important factor, but more important was hard work, dedication, great work ethics, making smart career decisions, finding right people to train them, sponsor them, managing their affairs etc. They've managed to avoid the usual traps waiting for very young people who make good money very quickly, so they have a lot of good sense. They also know how to pursue a goal and they like winning.
You are right saying that they wouldn't probably make such money as they are making now, but I believe that many of them would have good, interesting careers. Maybe even as pastry chefs, but with their own chains of restaurants

And as for other posters referring to Aga, most of doctors would tell you that the most important thing in their education was hard work, learning by heart of thousands of latin names, symptoms, chemical formulas etc. plus practice, practice and again practice. So I wouldn't count Aga out as a surgeon.
I don't necessarily disagree with this. On average they probably don't have lesser non-sporting abilities than the general population, so most would probably have done okay. But this is something quite different to being, say, a successful fashion designer or actress. With all due respect, without their tennis fame none of these girls would have a chance of breaking through in those fields.

I am also not 100% convinced that hard work, dedication, great work ethics, making smart career decisions, etc. in tennis transfer automatically to other fields. It's not as if most of them have done it entirely on their own. Let's be honest, most of these girls' talent was recognized at an early age, as a result of which they were given access to the best coaching, facilities etc., and pushed hard by their coaches or parents to be as competitive as hell. If they had chosen a different career they would be far less "special" and would have had to do it largely on their own steam, more than likely in a field that wasn't a tenth as much fun as playing tennis for a living.
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I don't necessarily disagree with this. On average they probably don't have lesser non-sporting abilities than the general population, so most would probably have done okay. But this is something quite different to being, say, a successful fashion designer or actress. With all due respect, without their tennis fame none of these girls would have a chance of breaking through in those fields.

I am also not 100% convinced that hard work, dedication, great work ethics, making smart career decisions, etc. in tennis transfer automatically to other fields. It's not as if most of them have done it entirely on their own. Let's be honest, most of these girls' talent was recognized at an early age, as a result of which they were given access to the best coaching, facilities etc., and pushed hard by their coaches or parents to be as competitive as hell. If they had chosen a different career they would be far less "special" and would have had to do it largely on their own steam, more than likely in a field that wasn't a tenth as much fun as playing tennis for a living.
I'm not sure if the first of the bolded sentences is true for most of the top girls... I know that it's not true for Radwanska, coached by her father in quite poor conditions. I'm not sure if it's true for Serena, Kvitova, Azarenka etc., but I admit that I know to little about their early lives. As for the second sentence - being pushed hard at an early age and not cracking under pressure shows the strength of character, which would serve those girls on any other field
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I'm not sure if the first of the bolded sentences is true for most of the top girls... I know that it's not true for Radwanska, coached by her father in quite poor conditions. I'm not sure if it's true for Serena, Kvitova, Azarenka etc., but I admit that I know to little about their early lives. As for the second sentence - being pushed hard at an early age and not cracking under pressure shows the strength of character, which would serve those girls on any other field
You're quite right that not all the girls had access to great facilities at a young age, but they were all given a lot of encouragement to do something that they enjoyed doing anyway.

At that age I don't think strength of character is quite the right word to describe what they do. I would say it's more about sporting competitiveness, which in my experience is something quite different from competitiveness in terms of grades or success in business/work.

I'm not knocking what they did, I couldn't have done it for sure. I just don't think you can easily extrapolate from sports to other fields.
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You're quite right that not all the girls had access to great facilities at a young age, but they were all given a lot of encouragement to do something that they enjoyed doing anyway.

At that age I don't think strength of character is quite the right word to describe what they do. I would say it's more about sporting competitiveness, which in my experience is something quite different from competitiveness in terms of grades or success in business/work.

I'm not knocking what they did, I couldn't have done it for sure. I just don't think you can easily extrapolate from sports to other fields.
Not easily, for sure, but I find that people tend to give professional sportmen too little credit for their achievement. They treat them like all their merit was having better physique. Some tend to think that sportsmen are stupid and would not succeed otherwise. I think that majority of sport achievement is in the sportsman's brain, not their body. Mind you, I know that you or most people on this board don't have such simplistic view, but sometimes even here I see echoes of this treating sportsmen as being less inteligent than average people (the fact that most of them speaks in most interviews in the language that is not their own, is a major factor in my opinion), when in fact I suspect that the best sportsmen have to be quite intelligent as a rule. Of course there are exceptions from all rules
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^Tbh I have my doubts about sportspeople in general, but on average I think tennis players are reasonably intelligent, or at least not completely stupid.

As for giving them credit: I have a lot of respect for anybody who can do anything really well. I don't need to believe they are also amazingly talented in other areas as well
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I am also not 100% convinced that hard work, dedication, great work ethics, making smart career decisions, etc. in tennis transfer automatically to other fields. It's not as if most of them have done it entirely on their own. Let's be honest, most of these girls' talent was recognized at an early age, as a result of which they were given access to the best coaching, facilities etc., and pushed hard by their coaches or parents to be as competitive as hell. If they had chosen a different career they would be far less "special" and would have had to do it largely on their own steam, more than likely in a field that wasn't a tenth as much fun as playing tennis for a living.
That is very true.
There'sa only a few elite women tennis players but there's millions of aspiring models or fashion editors.
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