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Does Charlie know?

http://www.pacificlifeopen.com/en/news/news493_rx.asp

I wonder if, Indian Well tournament director, Charlie Pasarell, is aware that the image featured on the WTA logo, that is the topic of the tournament's web site article, is none other than VENUS WILLIAMS?


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Yeah... two weeks ago you said it was Hingis and that the WTA would never put Venus on their logo .
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It's been stated that the image is Venus Williams in an article that the tour release.....someone posted it.


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Pic was posted either by Brian or Hollywood a few weeks ago.
I was surprised that the WTA would use the body of VENUS for their precious logo, but she is the goddess VENUS, eh?

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It was also n Tennis magazine, it IS Venus!!!!

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Here's the actual picture!!!

http://www.wtaworld.com/attachment.p...postid=1375222

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What the hell does that have to do with Charlie?? I wish some of you guys would pull that log out of your ass about Charlie Pasarell. He has nothing to do with what happened that day and is a well-respected, nice guy. He has never been anything but complimentary about Venus or Serena. He wants them to play, he is sad that they won't, life goes on.
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Tratree, are you Charlie's niece or nephew by chance?
You seem to be the one with the wood up the anus.

On the subject, it is a rather ironic coincidence regarding the article and the photo.

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Tratree - I think 'nothing' is a bit of a stretch. Although I'd agree he had no power to compell behaviour. But the annopuncers for the tournament were calling two of his player criminals repeatedly. (Fixing matches is a felony in the USA. Jail time.) Unless he thinks its true, he has a corporate responsibility to his sponsors and investors to tell those announcers to shut the hell up.

Afterward, he was between a rock and a hard place. If he calls the crowd that bought his MOST EXPENSIVE tickets a pack of white supremacists bigots, how many of them will buy tickets next year? If he doesn't, then he alienates two of the biggest stars on the tour.

He didn't really have a choice. After the fact.

But it turns out that the announcers DON'T have to claim the Williams sisters fix their matches. They DON'T have to find players who'll say that on camera. They DON' Thave to bring the issue up.

Because after Inidain Wells 2001, they stopped. Maybe, just MAYbe, Charlie should have stopped them sooner.

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If the WILLIAMS were playing, I am sure that those seats that were emptied by bigots would be filled by some people who are more decent and intelligent than the old ticket holders.

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No Tee, I am no relation to Charlie, but I happen to see him at IW every year and I think I might know a bit more about him personally than you or other people who continually pin what happened in IW on him.

As for Charlie being responsible for what ESPN commentators or players in the tournament say, I would answer WHAT? How the heck is he supposed to control what Pam, MJ and Cliffy say, not to mention Dementieva.

Anyways, if you guys want to waste time crucifying the guy, go for it. I'm so sick of this topic it's not even funny. I'm just gonna go enjoy some good tennis next week at IW.
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Originally posted by victory1
Here's the actual picture!!!

http://www.wtaworld.com/attachment.p...postid=1375222
Wow!! Thanks for posting the photo. I thought I read somewhere back when the new logo debuted that it looked like Amy Frazier. Imagine my delight that it's Venus.

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