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The Black family and Zimbabwe

I just read an extremely interesting article in my recent issue of TENNIS Magazine.

The Black trio - Wayne and Byron (ATP) and Cara (WTA) are having difficulty finding solace in their homeland of Zimbabwe.

As it goes:

The president of Zimbabwe, Mugabe, is black. And for a while, I assume whites were the political leaders in this country, despite being a minority. Generally, they were more affluent than the blacks.

So this new president is enforcing new legislation where land is being taken away and given back to black people on the basis of race. This has caused a lot of civil unrest and uncertainity amongst the country.

Wayne has retired and loves Zimbabwe but is moving to Australia because of security for his wife and child. Byron and Cara said they never plan to live their ever again and will only go to visit their mother who still lives on the Black farm.

Their farm is only 22 acres - small by current standards in Zimbabwe - so their property is safe for now.

Anyways, I just couldn't believe what I was reading -- it was like I was in 1950's Southern USA, except the races were different.

I feel sorry for the Blacks and all other Zimabweans and hope they can find some hope and unity in their country.


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I agree with the idea of land redistribution. Zimbabwe was a colony and the white colonialists oppressed the black native people stripping away the fertile land for their own use. Now I feel the land should be slowly redistributed back to the original people. However the manner in which mugabe is doing this is atrocious and he is a despot.

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I think the farms owned by the white citizens of Zimbawe are not being "redistributed back to the original people" (whatever that might mean) but rather are being given to cronies of Mugabe and to wealthy people. Mugabe is attempting to shore up his corrupt regime.

You know, it has been 40 years since white colonists ruled Zimbawe. There is some concern that this taking of farmland will cause food shortages and perhaps famine in Zimbawe.

I hope South Africa can remain stable. I credit Mandela for instilling a proper spirt among both white and black South Africans. And, I admire the restraint of the black South Africans. Surely, it must have been difficult to rein in a desire for revenge. But, perhaps in 40 years, things will be different there too.

Famine, AIDS, and the dreadful internecene wars over gold are the biggest destabilizers in Africa right now. Bush's support for money to fight AIDS in Africa was laudable, however, it isn't enough. Spending not enough money to do any good is just like throwing money away. Africa has so many riches, but it's history for the last 400 years has been a sad one.
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Don't forget the mess in sudan with the squabbling over oil and land and independence for the south. I think the north of sudan is just as dispicable as mugabe. Of course Im sad to say that the freedom fighters in the south have been guilty of heinous crimes themselves. Its all a big mess.

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Add "and oil" to "gold" please.

National Geographic had a good story on Sudan recently.

I get so sad when I think of all this killing. Ethiopia is a country I would really like to visit. I want to see the great rift valley and some of the coptic churches and the highlands.... but, it seems so very chaotic. But, I've always felt a strong pull toward that country.
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btw, SI had a good story on the Black family in Zimbawe. Apparently, the senior Black was a much respected teacher. He wasn't a farmer.

Some of the Blacks' cousins are farmers though.
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And it must be hard to grow up in such a beautiful country and have to leave it.
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I must say I can't blame any of them for not living in Zimbabwe any more.

Two of their cricketers (Andy Flower and Henry(?) Olonga) have been wearing black armbands in their matches at the World Cup to signify Zimbabwe's death. I can only imagine how Mugabe and his cronies are gonna reeact to that. They already complained about it to the ICC (ruling body of cricket). I think once the World Cup is over, they and their families will be in great danger! Olonga already got dropped from his cricket club for wearing the armband too!

It's so sad. I mean sure, I agree with the re-distribution of land to an extent. But you can't nowadays go in and take away someone's WHOLE land. Take some of it, fine, and give it to the people who REALLY need it, not just the govt cronies. There was a big article in a paper here about how Mugabe just does stuff for his cronies and if anyone speaks out about it, they get tortured - beaten up, electirc shocks, that sort of stuff! It's like apartheid, but backwards!

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Africa is such a mess........and I suspect it'll get worse. I personally, object to [wealthy] white people thriving on that continent.
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Rhodesia, Zimbabwe's antecendent, was a totally corrupt society. A lot of the people who benefitted from that corruption kept the wealth thus generated when white-rule was ended. That had to be fixed. You don't just arrest thieves, you try to get stolen property back to people.

Now its time for a reality check. The 'thieves' were also the ones who knew how to run agribusinesses, and factories. You could throw out the white owner of a car company and give it to me, but that doesn't mean I could get the company to produce cars.
A white-owned agri-business that produces 200,000 tons of food a year, given to a crony of Mugabe who was formerly a pilot, isn't going to produce much food. Pilots aren't farmers.

Mugabe isn't a saviour. He's another corrupt thief. The skin color may change, but it's still the few exploiting the many.

All that said, I can't work up too much sympathy for the Black family. That MAY be totally unfair. The salient question to me is, how hard did THEY work to end white rule when the country was still Rhodesia? They reaped the benefits of white rule. THey now suffer the penalties of black rule. If they didn't oppose the one, what's their complaint about the other?

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I agree with Volcana. I have a hard time feeling sympathy. I would hope that the country can be stabilized and the anarchy put under control. However, I fear this is just going to end in a horrid civil war with waring factions or Mugabe will turn his terror within. However, we know no matter how many black Africans he kills the world will do nothing but maybe if he messes with enough caucasions the world will step in and try to bring some peace to the region.
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Oh and Starr, Bush cut the financial support for fighting AIDS in Africa by an unbelievable amount as soon as he got in office. My friend sent me an email about it. I'll have to ask her if she still has it.
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Africa is such a mess........and I suspect it'll get worse. I personally, object to [wealthy] white people thriving on that continent.

Well I personally object to [wealthy] white people thriving in Europe, North America, South America, Asia, Australia, and yes even Antarctica!


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Question... when did white rule end in Zimbabwe? I'd like to know the date of that...anyone know?

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Do you guys ever wonder why the "zimbabwe situation" gets so much media time? In sub-sahara Africa, several similar activities usually takes place which affects more people than in Zimbabwe. So, why does the Zimbabwe issue is the one that obsesses BBC, CNN, and even our own CBC? I wonder.
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