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post #1 of 104 (permalink) Old Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
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Smile Hingis good, not great

I think Martina was great in her way and day. I think V&S and others feel that she was great there for a time. They couldn't beat her at one time - and especially - consistently.




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Hingis good, not great

Posted February 23 2003

If Martina Hingis never plays another WTA match, and it now appears she won't, she will carry into her injury-imposed retirement five Grand Slam titles and three years (1997-99) of dominance.

She will not, however, be remembered as one of the great players in women's tennis. Great means Serena Williams, Martina Navratilova, Venus Williams, Chris Evert.











Hingis was a champion with the most technically polished game since Evert, but her finesse and tactical genius were overpowered by the evolution of the big hitters -- first Venus, then Lindsay Davenport and, finally, Serena.

She never found a way to compete with the power players in women's tennis, and that is what has kept her from greatness.

When Hingis rose to No. 1 on March 31, 1997, she was at 16 years and six months the youngest player to hold that position in women's tennis, and she remained at No. 1 for 209 weeks.

Yet for all the impressive numbers, her legacy is that she filled the void between the demise of Steffi Graf and the ascent of the Williams sisters. In fact, if she were 100 percent fit today, at age 22, Hingis wouldn't be among the top five players on the WTA tour.

She won her last major at the 1999 Australian, finishing short of a trophy in her past 13 Slams. It was one of the great ironies in recent history that, though she supplanted Graf at No. 1, it was Steffi who delivered Hingis' most disappointing loss -- in the 1999 French Open final.

Precocious and self-important, Hingis burst upon women's tennis at age 14, and her pious attitude served her less and less well as she grew. She cried after Graf beat her in three sets at that '99 final at Roland Garros, and then she briefly discarded her mother as coach following a first-round loss at Wimbledon two weeks later.

But from that point on, Hingis grew much more rapidly as a person than as a player. She is, today, one of the most mentally and emotionally mature players on the WTA Tour.

Along with five Grand Slam titles, tennis has helped her grow up.

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Cool Wow, thanks GoGoGirl...!!!

Interesting, but, oh so true!!! I imagine the "usual suspects" will arrive and decry the "blasphemy of the author" on what I consider a well written viewpoint!!!

Thanks, again GoGoGirl!!!
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Re: Hingis good, not great

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Yet for all the impressive numbers, her legacy is that she filled the void between the demise of Steffi Graf and the ascent of the Williams sisters. In fact, if she were 100 percent fit today, at age 22, Hingis wouldn't be among the top five players on the WTA tour.
If that is the case, then certainly Graf should be considered a "gap-filler" from '93-'96 since she just filled the void between the stabbing of Monica Seles and the ascent of Martina Hingis.

As for the author's "what if's", that just shows his bias.

Pathetic!

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That was a poor article.
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Re: Hingis good, not great

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She will not, however, be remembered as one of the great players in women's tennis. Great means Serena Williams, Martina Navratilova, Venus Williams, Chris Evert.
Ofcourse, Venus and Serena deserve to be mentioned with Evert and Navratilova as great with 4 and 5 GS Singles titles respectively, while Graf and Seles with 22 and 9 respecitvely and BJK with 12 are not even mentioned. LOL!

Was this a composition written by an 8th grader?

It is beyond me that this was published. ROTFLMFAO!

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Charles Bricker, the guilty columnist, is primarily a football writer for that paper (probably a 20:1 ratio of football to tennis). They drag him out almost every Sunday to write his tennis column, which is usually a dab of dubious opinion mixed with several snippets of tour "news" that most tennis readers already know. He is not taken seriously by well-informed tennis enthusiasts. I feel sorry that Hingis fans, of which I was never one, have to be exposed to it.
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the person who wrote that article obviously don't know very much about tennis...

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"Good" and "Great" are just words. I can't believe this football columnist wasted ink and paper to dispute the difference. I hope his life is better for knowing that Martina Hingis wasn't the best player of all-time, but merely one of the better players of all-time.

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ali of course martina doesn't belong there. you know the real reason right?

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Re: Hingis good, not great

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Great means Serena Williams, Martina Navratilova, Venus Williams, Chris Evert.

[...]but her finesse and tactical genius were overpowered by the evolution of the big hitters -- first Venus, then Lindsay Davenport and, finally, Serena.
Just 2 'highlights' of this pathetic article.

Please, GogoGirl, don't waste your time with this rubbish.
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Exclamation Too funny, just too, too funny...!!!

This thread is becoming "funnier" by the minute.!!!!

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ali of course martina doesn't belong there. you know the real reason right?
For a second there, I took this comment seriously!

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Re: Too funny, just too, too funny...!!!

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This thread is becoming "funnier" by the minute.!!!!

LMBAO
I'm LMAO about you. Considering this piece of trash 'a well written viewpoint' - hahaha, how funny.
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Re: Re: Too funny, just too, too funny...!!!

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I'm LMAO about you. Considering this piece of trash 'a well written viewpoint' - hahaha, how funny.
ROTFLMAO!

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Re: Re: Too funny, just too, too funny...!!!

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I'm LMAO about you. Considering this piece of trash 'a well written viewpoint' - hahaha, how funny.


Sticks and stones...

How is that when the viewpoint isn't as "favorable" towards Hingis, then it's crap, and should that same author write something more favorable towards Hingis, your azzz suggest "Nobel Prize" ????????????

Go suck on a lemon!!!!
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