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The younger generation of players are now so used to needing so much time to set up their shots and bashing it hard, and even then so many of them already have a not quite so good unforced error rate. Carpets were so fast and low bouncing that reactions, hand eye coordination, and improvisation is much more important during the stroke production. I could possibly see Aga doing well, but her lack of power would let feed her to the dogs when she meets the first player with a decent ballstriking ability.
Could it possibly be that the younger generation of players grew up on slower more homogenized courts, and thats why they "need" so much time to set up their shots?

Women's tennis looks, feels, and plays much better on faster courts because they don't have the serve. It makes the 90s and early 2000s generation look far better in comparison to today.

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There needs to be far more variety, this homogenisation of the courts has devalued the role that the surface has to play and thus devalued the career grand slam.
And having 3 of the 4 slams played on grass for decades didn't?
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Could it possibly be that the younger generation of players grew up on slower more homogenized courts, and thats why they "need" so much time to set up their shots?

Women's tennis looks, feels, and plays much better on faster courts because they don't have the serve. It makes the 90s and early 2000s generation look far better in comparison to today.
Lol you've got to be joking, if anything today's generation has a far worse serve on average.
It says something when Steffi's serve is still a top ten serve on tour, and Capriati whose serve is actually pretty abysmal still shits on say Vika's any day.

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Could it possibly be that the younger generation of players grew up on slower more homogenized courts, and thats why they "need" so much time to set up their shots?

Women's tennis looks, feels, and plays much better on faster courts because they don't have the serve. It makes the 90s and early 2000s generation look far better in comparison to today.
It also makes them literally better, because playing on faster courts teaches the importance of aggression (via power or taking the ball early or going to the net) and emphasises athleticism, quick adjustments and technical execution. Better in the sense that a fast court specialist can still be dangerous on a much slower surface (especially with a recalibration in their mentality), but a slow court specialist is impotent on a fast court.

Slower courts on the other hand emphasise fitness/endurance and point construction. But point construction is useless and not particularly entertaining if you don't have the technical ability to execute a wide variety of shots in spin, placement and pace.

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Today's racket technology makes the ball go so much faster, if they hadn't slowed the courts down, John Isner would never lose, and players with an all around game would have no chance. They don't call it 'service', they call it 'tennis'.

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- What is the Grand Slam Cup Exactly, and why is it no longer around.
It was kind of like the YEC (bar RR) but only the best performing players at the slams that year were invited.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_Cup

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I always thought players like Radwanska, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Kvitova, Barthel, Kerber and others would have loved to play on fast surfaces. They all play different styles but fast courts suit their game in different ways.
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I should mention Marion Bartoli as well.
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