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Venus/Serena vs. Martina/ Lindsay 2000-03

Here are the stats since 2000! Much bigger difference!

......................... Venus/Serena ........ Martina/Lindsay

Titles.................... 33 .......................... 26
Grandslams............ 8 ........................... 1
Weeks at no.1........ 44 ......................... 90
Head-to-head......... 20 .........................6

As you can see the sisters have excelled in everything but the number 1 ranking (due to the fact they didn't play that much) and the head to head, martina has most of the wins! Lindsay has 1 win over venus in this span, and 1 win over serena. Hingis has 1 win over venus, but 3 wins over serena! But clearly when the sisters were coming into their own, when you take a look at the number now, Venus and Serena are better. And I think most of there title wins, they beat lindsay or hingis on the way to the title, or for the title?
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Hey SerenaSlam that's not supposed to be the way you talk is it??
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aw naw, dis where i gots ta make deez type of posts readables for da rest of dees hoodlums

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aw naw, dis where i gots ta make deez type of posts readables for da rest of dees hoodlums
No, sir. You dont have to... or even you must not!!! I wanna hear your opinions in your own words, plz!!!

by the way, I'm not making fun of you.. I seriously enjoy reading yours.
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what's the point of this thread??

azarenka - pavlyuchenkova - li - jankovic
garcia - bencic - paszek - rus - kanepi - kuznetsova - stephens
bouchard - karatantcheva - larcher de brito - voegele - lim - mladenovic

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vaidisova - kournikova - golovin - henin
the boys - federer - gasquet - del potro - haase - nishikori
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M_pIeRcE14....take a look a da otha thread smilia, den u jus mite realeyes aight?

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maybe if u did like 1997-2000 for Martina/Lindsey compared to 2000/2003 for Serena/Venus, it would be a fair comparison

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icic, and i agree with dadave

azarenka - pavlyuchenkova - li - jankovic
garcia - bencic - paszek - rus - kanepi - kuznetsova - stephens
bouchard - karatantcheva - larcher de brito - voegele - lim - mladenovic

mary pierce - forever #1
vaidisova - kournikova - golovin - henin
the boys - federer - gasquet - del potro - haase - nishikori
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maybe if u did like 1997-2000 for Martina/Lindsey compared to 2000/2003 for Serena/Venus, it would be a fair comparison
See, I don't think it would be fair.

Martina and Lindsay have only stayed the same or even got better since 97-00. The Williams sisters were new to the tour during 97-99 years, and didn't really hit their stride until 99-now.

I think his comparisons now are actually better. All four have played their best in these past three years.

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i wasn't saying to compare it w/ Serena/Venus' records from 1997-2000, but from 2000-2003. Lindsey/Martina did not get better in 2000-2003, especially due to injury.

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i wasn't saying to compare it w/ Serena/Venus' records from 1997-2000, but from 2000-2003. Lindsey/Martina did not get better in 2000-2003, especially due to injury.
Martina didn't get injured until the very end of 2001, same for Davenport.

Compared to their 97-99 years, I definitely think Hingis and Davenport got better from 99-01, if they didn't, they were at the very same level. I don't think they got worse, I just the think the conpetition got better, and that may make it appear they got worse.

I say compare 99-01 stats between both groups. They were all healthy and great during that time period, except for an injury hiatus from Venus for half of 2000.

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i gree wit venus forever, u still be havin matchups in dare frum 97-99 when both da sistaz were not in they own, martina and lindsay were playin da same type of tennis in 97-99 as in 00-03, so really the only reason why i did 00-03 is b/c dat is really win da sisters caminto day own. ya know what i means?

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See, I don't think it would be fair.

Martina and Lindsay have only stayed the same or even got better since 97-00. The Williams sisters were new to the tour during 97-99 years, and didn't really hit their stride until 99-now.

I think his comparisons now are actually better. All four have played their best in these past three years.
LMAO at all 4 playing their best the last three years. That really is a ludicrous statement. Martina played one good year out of the last three and that was 2000 - the Martina of 2001 was jaded and FAR FAR from her best, and she barely played in 2002. Lindsay played with injury for most of 2000 (chronic injury) and for a large portion of 2001 and was out (missing three majors) for half of 2002. Even now she is nowhere near the level of the Davenport who won majors in 1999/early 2000. Venus and Serena's 1997-2000 campaigns were also littered with these sort of serious injuries and long lay offs, but recently they have appeared less prone to injury *fingers crossed* and IMO this has contributed to their domination - very rarely do the play with enforced rustiness. By contrast Lindsay and Martina were barely injured from 1997-2000 and this enabled them to be at their best most of the time. It is a shame that we have rarely seen all four fully fit and in peak form at the same time.
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I think the best way to compare the four are between the years 1999-2001 when all four were closest to their bests at the same time.

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