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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Dear Gopher

In the thread Venus Clobbers Clijsters 6-2 6-4, Gopher wrote the following:
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Millions of people demonstrated against the American bully today. People like you and the attitude of the Sisters unfortunately confirm this wrong image of the US.
Those are pretty strong words. As someone who spent part of yesterday freezing during the New York protests, and a bigtime fan of Venus Williams, I'm going to flat out challenge you to back up your words. To my eyes, people were out their protesting to stop the mass murder of innocents. But let's say you're right.

You wrote, "...the attitude of the Sisters unfortunately confirm this wrong image of the US."

Not the ABILITY. Not the WINNING. The ATTITUDE. So, what about that attittude? What have they said or done, attitude-wise that is in ANY way bullying behaviour? And no, 'it's just my opinion' doesn't cut it. You just equated a player's attitude with something that millions of people worldwide are protesting against. That isn't just slander. It calls into question your credibility on ANYTHING.

So start explaining.

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Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
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post #2 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 02:18 PM
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they(s and v of course) are bullies for sure. they don't give others much space to win titles

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Because, duh, she answered him in this thread...
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TVB - There's a reason behind that. When I first got on this board, I discovered that people would say really nasty, outrageous things, and when you called them on it, they'd change or delete the post, and then claim they never said it. This technique is my answer to that. Even if gopher deletes the post now, I've captured it for all to see. It's impossible to deny writing it this way. I don't use the technique often because usually people around here stay within the bounds of ... well, if not reason, then 'fan-dom'.

Venus Williams has never been other than gracious in victory, and to see that equated with the threatened death of several hundred thousand innocent people was a bit much. Certainly worth asking for a justification in a forum I have a little more control over.

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Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
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They are bullies because they win?
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Volcana,
it is good to know that you walk the walk in NY.
Posters like gopher with gratuitous insulting comments about Venus and Serena earn more of my contempt than of my attention.
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They are bullies because they win?
yes

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I too am a Venus and Serena fan and yesterday demonstrated against the threath of war in Iraq. Let me join in saying that that was a really STUPID remark and clearly not coming from someone with even minimal intelligence.
Please treat matters of worldwide and serious implications with respect.
Tennis players hit balls across a net, yes they make a lot (?too much) money maybe. War threatens lives and livelihoods far beyond the borders of Iraq.

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post #9 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 02:54 PM
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Re: Dear Gopher

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Originally posted by Volcana
In the thread Venus Clobbers Clijsters 6-2 6-4, Gopher wrote the following
In This Thread why the peacetards post that they've been on an anti-war march Car Key Boi wrote the following



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and this also applies to all the other tards who start numerous threads pissing & moaning at the USA and our actions in the Middle East

yuor average Iraqi is a devoted follower of Saddam (the main opposition in Iraq are the Kurds in the North and those Iraqis who live in the south) and as such yuor average Iraqi would be more than delighted to see all us Americantards and Eurotards burn in hell. If a nuke was to go off in either NYC, LA, London, Paris, Bonn or even Sydney Australia, those Iraqi tards will be dancing in the streets. Make no mistake, when they see yuo peacetards standing in the freezing cold holding up yuor anti-war placards, they think "what a bunch of losers", and don't kid yuorselves that this isn't the troof of the matter

that sure must be a brick, that yuo're standing in the freezing cold on their behalf, and yet they would rejoice at seeing yuo all die and burn in hell

anyways, the reason why you tards feel overwhelmed to come on this board and share yuor 'experience' of yuor march, is to make a statement along the lines of "hey! look at me, i'm such a worthy human being that i sacrificed my time and endured arduous conditions to protest against the evil Americans"

in other words, yuo're an



troof!

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CKB
I can't believe that being a tennisfan is like being in politics - strange bedfellows indeed. I wonder if you can understand that?
Maybe you should stick to tennis if that is how you interpret current world affairs and the Iraqis.

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How much you want to bet that Gopher isn't going to show himself in this thread? He'll probably just view it. I don't think he has an explanation for those comments.
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post #12 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 03:06 PM
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I do have. Tee Rexx continuously behaves like a bully on this board. It is a free world, I was pissed off so I am allowed to make comparisons. For those interested in defintions of bullies there are more than enough websites around.
Car Key Boi, come and pick up my Aston martin...
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post #13 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 03:09 PM
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tee is venus or serena?

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But I would atleast try to make the comparisons relevant to each other ...
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post #15 of 48 (permalink) Old Feb 16th, 2003, 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by bajangurl
why ask why Volcana- another one of those 'illogical' posts that i was referring to..dumb at most to make such a statement....i'm sure you've about seen it all on this board by now- i am pretty sure this person is going to come along and 'defend' his statement to no end and will have about 20 others defending it as well..i won't be surprised!!


You were right, Bajangurl.
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