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8 Simple Rules For Doing My Grand Slam Telecast

All this talk about Grand Slam TV coverage has got me thinking about some of the things I don't like about the way the various networks do it. So, "inspired by" the title of a sitcom, off the top of my head, here are 8 simple rules to make these telecasts better. (We could probably come up with about 80 if we put our minds to it.)

1. No airing of interviews, especially from the practice courts, while there is still live tennis going on.

2. A more even split of the airtime between men's and women's matches, especially during week one. An 80/20 split is not even.

3. During the first week, no best-of-5 match shall be joined before the 3rd set. If the match is one sided, it saves us an hour or more of tedium. If it's close, then we'd be in time to catch the important part of the match.

4. Variety is the spice of life. During the first week, show us a lot of different players in action on a lot of different courts, so it feels like a big event and not just a regular tourney. This should include significant coverage of each match featuring one of the top 8 seeds and, if they're going for the nationalistic approach, all of the American seeds as well. And there should be extensive highlights of ALL seeded players in action.

5. If they're going to show a lower-ranked American male player in action, they have to show all of the American women who are ranked higher than he is. And not just quickie highlights either.

6. Frequent score updates of all ongoing matches. Don't ignore these because they don't want us to know there's a more interesting match going on at a different court.

7. Prospective announcers have to take a basic quiz to show they know what is happening on the tours. If they fail, they can't announce matches involving players from that tour.

8. Learn how to pronounce the players' names! If you don't know, ask. Get someone down there to ask how to pronounce the name of each and every player in the field, and prepare a guide for the announcers. There was a guy who worked for the old Prime Network named Lou Palmer. He was one of those all-purpose announcers who did whatever sport the network assigned him to. When he got a tennis job, he ran into some tricky names. So he would, *gasp*, go up to the players beforehand and ask them how to pronounce their names. That way, he at least got reasonably close. That's respect. It's bad enough current tennis announcers butcher names on the tours they allegedly follow. But some do it with an air of disdain, as if to say "who cares?" We cares. And I'm sure the players do too. Is it too much to ask that the announcers do as well?

There's my basic 8 rules. If I had a #9 right now, it would be to verify facts before they blurt something out on air. And #9a would be to wire up the announcers' chairs, and hand me a remote operating unit, so that when they get information wrong, I could push a button and zap them.

What are your rules?
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I think 2 and 4 are the most important. And if you are showing women's matches in the 1st round, Patty Schnyder vs Dinara Safina is a better choice than Serena Williams vs Christina Wheeler.

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what i don't like is when in the first week they show all the big names so you do get to see lower ranked players unless they are playing someone like serena or venus.

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I'm dreaming, but...
1. When there is an interesting live match happening, SHOW IT! Yes, ESPN, I'm talking to you. When #1 men's player Lleyton Hewitt is battling for his life, don't show a taped match of Venus Williams double-bagelling someone.
2. Show EVERYTHING live.
3. When there is an interesting match that gets missed, show it on tape delay when there is no live tennis happening.
4. When all of a sudden after a rain delay there are ten interesting matches happening, get it broadcast onto ten different channels! And if this is not possible, see Rule #3.
5. SHOW MORE MATCHES WHEN NO AMERICANS ARE PLAYING. Especially when they're both in the top ten and the Americans aren't.
6. Copy TNT's broadcasting team. With Mary Carillo's wit, Martina Navratilova's expertise, Jim Courier's closeted gay locker room stories and Marv Albert's 'biting' commentary, you've got a winning team.
7. Get rid of commercials (I am dreaming, after all).
8. When the day's lineup features matches such as Sampras-Safin, Williams-Pierce, Agassi-Kucera, Rafter-Ivanisevic and ASV-Kournikova and there are violent thundershowers in the forecast, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T LET THE TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS PUT A TWO AND A HALF HOUR MATCH BETWEEN CONCHITA MARTINEZ AND AMANDA COETZER ON THE MAIN COURT BEFORE ANYONE ELSE PLAYS!!! (this happened on Labour Day at the US Open in 1998)
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Heh...for #8, you just need a commentator who bothers to read the atp and wta player guides...they even tell you syllable by syllable how to pronounce the names so theres really no excuse

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1. Learn which sister is Venus and which one is Serena (shouldn't be too hard).
2. Less of Andre Agassi. (Come on, there has to be something better going on than him winning a match 6-1, 6-0, 6-0.)
3. At least one in-depth profile of a young, up-and-coming player from each tour. Give us someone to look forward to watching in future years.
4. At least one in-depth profile of a veteran nearing retirement. Show us you care -- because if you don't, then why should we?
5. At least one in-depth profile of a top ten player on each tour -- preferably the one who no one outside of the people on this board have never heard of. Let us get to know these personalities -- include it in your TV contracts with the ITF and the ATP and WTA if you have to.
6. More Bud Collins. He only seems to get air time once or twice a year, but his knowledge of the sport would put some of these commentators to shame. And I'll bet he could pronounce the players' names right.
7. Brian Stewart's #9 and #9a. Only I get to zap the commentators, too.
8. Don't try to show tape-delayed coverage like it's live. At Wimbledon last year, I watched the Capriati/Mauresmo match on NBC, and they went into a rain delay. I turned to TNT, and found out that it had stopped raining and Mauresmo had won. On NBC, they were still in a rain delay. Needless to say, I didn't watch NBC anymore that week until the finals.
9. Get some fans together and see what would make them tune into tennis. If you use their idea, give them free tickets and expenses to the Slam you're covering and introduce them to as many top players as possible. Help them get autographs. Have the tours threaten to fine the players if they don't take part. Reward fans for their loyalty to the sport. (Repeat at each Slam you broadcast for this to be truly successful.)
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Oddly enough, your "dream list" Brian, is a lot like TNT. Because TNT has coverage BEYOND live coverage at Wimbledon--week one, we see every match, almost.
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This one is just for TNT, please stop interrupting the telecast and showing commericials incessantly for NASCAR and for stupid made-for-tv movies that no one is going to see, like "Mists of Avalon" !!!!!.

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Re: 8 Simple Rules For Doing My Grand Slam Telecast

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3. During the first week, no best-of-5 match shall be joined before the 3rd set. If the match is one sided, it saves us an hour or more of tedium. If it's close, then we'd be in time to catch the important part of the match.

I have to agree wholeheartedly with this one!

I'm not going to write my 8 rules, they'd be no different from what has already been said here
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Not showing taped tennis when there are LIVE semifinals going on would be nice (especially when it's 3am and nobody is watching anyhow )

I think that joining mens matches half way through is a terrible idea. If you are going to give men the short end of the bargain like that, the women should get it too.

Thankfully these are just opinions
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1. DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT!! show any tape delay MEN'S/ATP TOUR matches during many interesting LIVE WTA matches that are going on around the grounds!!! This royally pisses me off. A great match can be 7/6 4/6 7/6 LIVE and networks will show a TAPED match that just ended on the computer with the score being 6/3 6/1 6/0 AGASSI! grrrrr

2. OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FANS FROM EVERY COUNTRY AND PLACE IN THE WORLD. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY! SHOW THE ENTIRE CEREMONY AFTER THE FINALS OF ALL TOURNEYS!!! Fans like to see their players hold up the winners trophy! LET US ENJOY OUR FAVORITES SPEECHES!! Sheesh it's like pulling the plug on a movie 10 minutes before it is over! Who likes that? Grrrr

3. Show many, many, more players that are not American!! I have yet to see Angie Widjaja play!! Think outside the box!!

4.CLEAN HOUSE!! GET RID OF THE BIASED AND STUPID COMMENTATORS! KEEP BJK(HBO) AND MARTINA(TNT) AND ZINA GARRISON.

5. If she wants the job please hire CHANDA RUBIN for ALL MAJOR NETWORKS! She is a natural at it.

My others are Brian's #1-9a

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1. DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT!! show any tape delay MEN'S/ATP TOUR matches during many interesting LIVE WTA matches that are going on around the grounds!!!
Agreed. And vice versa would be nice as well.

LIke this year when instead of showing one of the mens quarter (I might be mixing up my days here, but I'm certain that it was "the match of the year" Roddick vs Younes), they decided to show the womens semis in tape delay. That is, womens semis that had already been shown earlier that evening.
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LOL Rebecca
Yeah I guess it's not fair joining just mens' matches halfway through...but I stick by my agreement with it, every men's match they show here in the early rounds usually consists of a guy named Agassi and a score of something like 0, 1, and 1....please, please could they show someone else in a more competitive match, man or woman :P
And would TV stations stop insisting on cutting short matches or using the tape delay function, when it's like midnight. I mean who cares at that hour if the match goes over it's alloted time. For that matter (ESPN please listen ) I dont' see why they can't film more coverage and a broader range of matches and play them late at night. I mean, who's going to watch Sportscentre 7 or 8 times in a row in the middle of the night? Yeah I'm sure there's great ratings for that. Surely it wouldnt' hurt them to throw some extra coverage in at those hours
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When it comes to NETWORKS(the good ole boy networks that is) I just don't care at this moment about the ATP being aired. The WTA has way too much to catch up on. If it weren't for Venus and Serena and Jen and Anna. We would not get hardly any WTA coverage at all. They already show so much of the ATP tour and not enough of the WTA as it is. It is 80/20 like Brian stated and that leaves no room to care about the ATP at the moment.

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LOL Rebecca
Yeah I guess it's not fair joining just mens' matches halfway through...but I stick by my agreement with it, every men's match they show here in the early rounds usually consists of a guy named Agassi and a score of something like 0, 1, and 1....please, please could they show someone else in a more competitive match, man or woman :P
You hit the problem on the head here - it's not them showing ATP matches that is the problem. It's them showing ANDRE matches that is the problem. If instead of showing every point of every single one of his matches, they just showed highlights of some of them, and would actually show *good* matches that are going on - atp or wta - it would be fine.

But people are pissing and moaning "oh too much atp oh boo hoo" - well that isn't even the case. ATP fans bitch too, because the ATP coverage that they DO show is absolute crap.

They need to show a broader range of matches, to show what is going to be "the match of the day" as opposed all of the painful Agassi vs Lee affair, or Mardy Fish having a brat attack vs Wayne Ferreira.

I'm all for equality of coverage, but I don't think that is what some of you are calling for. By asking them not to show full mens matches, you are indicating that ATP coverage should be totally neglected compared to WTA coverage. That is NOT equality, it's hypocracy.
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