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Bielik and Baltacha and others; bradhsaw, lucic etc.?

they both reached the 3rd round of their home grand slam last year, each as a wildcard. they showed some promising signs that they may compete with the top 15. where are they now? as much as i hate to say it they are both struggling at the challenger level. i want them to be top 15 players but i'm starting to lose hope. i know it is early in their careers but if you see someone performing at the level of the 3rd round in a grand slam, the round of 32, you expect that they can at least win challenger tournaments that are against players ranked in the 200's to 500's. even if they weren't playing well, if you have seen the player compete at the top 32 level you would thik they would at least be able to win a round in a wta event let alone in a challenger event. but this isn't happening and then i think back to bradshaw, 3rd round us open, the tops players said "with her serve she will be top 10 by next year" and she is ranked in the 300's and is still dropping. i guess the same sort of thing happened to lucic.

this thread is to cheer for the players that have once looked to be so promising but are now struggling.

i wish you all the best and hope to see you on t.v. once more.

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and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.

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Bea just competed in her first tournament this year - give her some time.

Elena has been struggling this year though.
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bea actually played really well in that tournament. the two matches she won were 6-1 6-2 and 6-1 6-1 i think. but then she lost a three set match.

but i expect them to be playing at at least a top 150 or top 200 standard and they clearly are not.

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and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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Hopefully Bea wil make a move this year. I think she just needs to play a few more matches to get her confidence up.

Sometimes doing well in a slam too early hurts a player. They start to put too much pressure on themselves.

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Bally has liver damage and is obviously feeling the effects of it! Give her time and she will give us her Wimbledon showing again!
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Bally is just playing back into shape after an autoimmune condition that left her easily fatigued and really challenged some of the best doctors in Britain. BTW, surprise, surprise: I called her @ her hotel in NYC with good wishes during the Bronx Challenge last year (post 9/11 NYC, now) and she DID NOT FREAK OR CALL THE COPS, wonder of wonders... (similar to this Jan. when I spoke to "the nice Nathalie" after her injury @ Canberra). I wasn't going to let you-know-who "intimidate me", PLUS these 2 deserved it, esp. Bally who was really sick for awhile. Bea won the 2002 NCAA championship (playing for North Carolina's Wake Forest University) as the 2nd ranked player, blowing away the smaller and lighter Jessica Lehnhoff from Univ. of Florida (#1 going in) in the final. (Lisa Raymond won that title @ Florida in '93, BTW). Bea was like a collegiate equivilant of Linzi with her 6' 1" frame and booming serve, surprised she's had so little consistency as a pro so far.

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Re: Bielik and Baltacha?

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they both reached the 3rd round of their home grand slam last year, each as a wildcard. they showed some promising signs that they may compete with the top 15. where are they now? as much as i hate to say it they are both struggling at the challenger level. i want them to be top 15 players but i'm starting to lose hope.
Top 15? Are you quite sane? Bea and Bally are damn good players and they should be proud of their Slam performances, but top 15... at no point did they show anything like that much potential. If you could restrain yourself from labelling every power player with a decent serve who has one good result as a future top player, you'd be able to see that neither have been all that disappointing. Bally's won a couple of $25ks - despite her health problems - and Bea's only played a handful of tournaments anyway.
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why would you phone a player at her private hotel? Are u mad or something? God, give them some peace and space.. If you want to speak to them, approach them at the tennis centre.. the word stalker springs to mind.....
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they both made good appearances and they both showed they had great potential. at the time the players ranked from #10-15 weren't as consistent as they are now and i said COMPETE that doesn't necessarily mean i think they will be ranked up there just that they will be able to trouble them. they can improve on the way they played in those tournaments and they hae great potential.

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and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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they both made good appearances and they both showed they had great potential.
Not really. They both showed that they had good serves and good mentality. Neither displayed much court sense or consistency. Really... they are good, I'll grant you that. Maybe even top 100 good. But beating Vento-Kabchi and a slumping Coetzer, or Voracova and an ill Tanasugarn, does not make you anything special. Personally, I'll be ecstatic if Bally makes the top 100 at all.
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bally did all that with huge liver damage so she should improve just from that reason. bielik played quite well against henin one a few points but she hadn't played enough on the tour to keep with her.

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and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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and you're saying third round in a grand slam isn't a good appearance?

Go the aussies! stosur!!!
and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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Third round in a slam is very good for both players, a really good result. I'm not saying they're bad players... most people in the top 200 are good. But there's a difference - a HUGE one - between a player who is good, who possesses weapons, and who can win a couple of Tour-level matches once in a while, and a player who can actually compete with the top 20 in the world.

If you hadn't noticed... Justine H-H is not very good on US hardcourts, and certainly not one of the ten best in the world.
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how can you say henin is not one of the best 10 in the world? i respect your opinion and if you don't think she is then fine but i have my own opinion and i think she is one of the best 10 in the world.

Go the aussies! stosur!!!
and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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Read my post. ON US HARDCOURTS Justine is not one of the top ten. On clay and grass and Rebound Ace, she's... well, she's amazing. Top five if not top three. Go and look up her results on US hardcourts, and you'll find nothing to compare to what she's achieved elsewhere. It's quite logical, when you consider how she plays.
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