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I'm not even sure what people are talking about now here, but it doesn't sound like a Graf/Serena/GOAT debate. Just confusing.
What it really is, Serena Haters, taking sly shots.. Pure and simple!!

Serena doing super great, the haters got to go back and pull up whatever.. This Graf thing is the whatever!!

They really need to close this thread!!

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What it really is, Serena Haters, taking sly shots.. Pure and simple!!

Serena doing super great, the haters got to go back and pull up whatever.. This Graf thing is the whatever!!

They really need to close this thread!!
OK, I'll take your word for it
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Bandabou, he/she has more than 37,000 posts in this forum in the last 10 years!
That is about 10 every day!,
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And in 10 years time there's gonna be another It-Girl, and another, and another. I mean fuck isn't Sloane already hyped? It comes with the territory. So you guys continue to bump threads from years back, hold grudges and laugh at the same posts over and over. I'm surprised there's enough time in the day tbh. Anyway sorry for the rant thread posters - over and out.
And since it bothers you so much we are going to continue to bump more of those stupid threads in future and laugh at them
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Well the comparison to the Sveta's and Ana's of the tour is an insult to Maria - even with Sveta's pedigree. You know for a fact however much you dislike Maria, that she is a very accomplished player.

And the latter part, so you take opinions from 2005 thread - a year after Maria beat Serena in the Wimbledon final - and assume it applies to today? In that moment she was a phenomenon, but why is it so important to use that as an argument against Maria today? You've seen her struggles with Serena. I'm sure if this board had threads about Martina Hingis breaking through or heck, even Serena the comments would be the same. Because people live in that moment. When Vika won her first slam beating Maria easily everyone jumped on her bandwagon. And the reason the commentators do that today is to elevate the WTA - like I said previously, there's only Serena, Maria, Venus and an emerging Vika that are actual stars on the tour. So why wouldn't they say Maria is a rival to Serena? Otherwise the tour is boring as shit and utterly predictable. If all the praise is directed on Serena then it quite literally becomes the WilliamsTennisAssociation.

I actually didn't want to rant in here because I know the thread topic has nothing to do with it, but the utter monotony of hearing this comparison over and over is ridiculous
But you right. It's like Bandabou doesn't know how media works. It took Sloane one win over an injured Serena and in QF to be propel as the next Serena.
I'm not sure Bandabou has been listening to tennis commentators, his mind as well as Willytards' one is stuck in 2004 not that I can't really understand, Maria really choked the world that day and obviously it's still hurting. We know for a fact that Serena always think about W 2004 when she steps on court against Maria, so in a way we can't expect Willytards not to think about W 04 when they log in

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And since it bothers you so much we are going to continue to bump more of those stupid threads in future and laugh at them

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But you right. It's like Bandabou doesn't know how media works. It took Sloane one win over an injured Serena and in QF to be propel as the next Serena.
I'm not sure Bandabou has been listening to tennis commentators, his mind as well as Willytards' one is stuck in 2004 not that I can't really understand, Maria really choked the world that day and obviously it's still hurting. We know for a fact that Serena always think about W 2004 when she steps on court against Maria, so in a way we can't expect Willytards not to think about W 04 when they log in
Don't hear no commentators say that Sloane is or is gonna be better than Serena, like it was said about Sharapova.

'04 Wimby is old news...now Serena goes thinking about '07 oz open when she steps in the court against Sharapova.

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Don't hear no commentators say that Sloane is or is gonna be better than Serena, like it was said about Sharapova.
Are you kidding me ?
You're just not paying attention to it cause it doesn't fit your agenda, you can't speak about white supremacy anymore
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Are you kidding me ?
You're just not paying attention to it cause it doesn't fit your agenda, you can't speak about white supremacy anymore
You see any threads about Serena being done and it's Sloane time now?!
look up all the threads in which claims were made that Serena was done and wouldn't any majors as long as Masha was still playing.

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You see any threads about Serena being done and it's Sloane time now?!
look up all the threads in which claims were made that Serena was done and wouldn't any majors as long as Masha was still playing.
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over 10 years..sloane can be the IT-girl, Serena won't may not be playing then. Sloane never got hyped like Sharapova though. It was total disrespect back then, so that's why Serena winning all the time and at cost of Maria...is justice. Never forget!
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For those on here who like to say graf did everything she should have done in reaction to seles stabbing there are many points to suggest the opposite. Graf as we all know (outside of her crazed fans)would never have amassed so many slams with Monica in the game. Remember sales had won the last 8 of 11 slams she played and was 3 to 1 in slam finals against Graf and in my mind if grunt gate did not happen in Wimbledon 1992 she would have had a good chance in winning that final. Except for the us open in 90 she pretty much won everything that year that she played and was really number one from spring of 90 to spring of 93 until Hamburg. that German idiot deserves all the blame for the attack Graf although I am sure was burdened/troubled by it has no right to be blamed at all for the actions of a madman. However here are the facts, after the stabbing Graf did not vote to protect Monica's ranking she complained when Seles was given a co number ranking when she returned in 95 ( goggle LA times article from 95 with key words seles co number ranking and see it yourself). She also would not speak about the stabbing and its impact on her results unless asked directly and to top it off she signed an endorsement deal that Seles was just about to sign, When asked during seles absence how she would look back on her slam titles and think that maybe she would not be as successful ( btw I believe Monica would have won about 14-16 slams if not stabbed and Graf I believe would have won the faster slams as well as she actually did but no way would she have won 22)Graf standard explanation or answer would be " I don't know" it just shows what she is like and don't get me started on the whole " I did not pay my taxes deal opps" serena willimas is the best player ever regardless of Monica increased slams if not stabbed and grafs decreased slams etc..she is just the best period she herself will be replaced as the game continues to involve..
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Maria example is weak one. That was her first GS.
The example of Martina Nav, is the most alike parallel to Monica's.
so true comparing maria's record against serena is nothing like the seles/graf situation. Delusional graf fan pretending stabbing did not change anything!!
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