Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
Following up the 'Jonas Thread'
Clearing up a few things:
Jonas might be a bit unknown in the world nowadays, but just about everyone the slightest interested in tennis in Sweden knows who he is. He has been for several years (dunno if he is still) the player representative for ATP. That's not something you get appointed to if you're not a fairly pleasant person.
There is no reference to when Jonas answered what he thought about the sisters, though the article itself was published the other day. But given the strict laws regarding things like this in Sweden, we can be sure that Jonas has been asked if it was okay to print it now even if he said it a year or more ago.
I didn't bring this up to make an attack on anyone. I thought it was interesting to see someone who should have some insight, and being known as a pleasant guy, saying such things, wondering if he had a hidden agenda for doing it, or just truthfully answering questions that might be correct, or they might be misguided.
The response to that thread actually made me sad. There seems to be four cathegories of replies.
1. Jonas is an idiot/unknown guy who knows shit about the WTA. He should shut the hell up instead of trying to make a name by accusing the sisters.
He wouldn't be the first, and none of those before have been successful either despite making worse accusations. He's done a lot more with his tennis before than a few minutes of critizism would give him. And I'm sure he knows a lot more than 99% of all fans about just about any more player. True, he might not meet the sisters very often, but he surely meets a lot of persons who do, and the talk goes around. They're the big stars now, you can be sure there's a lot of talk about them going on on the ATP too, for good and bad. True, Jonas' comments might be influenced by jealousy or disliking them for other reasons, but I strongly doubt he's just making it up on the basis of one incident. Just because an article quotes one reason doesn't mean he hasn't got other incidents to tell about. I agree that it was a bit stupid to get goaded into saying it, but it doesn't mean he's wrong.
2. Jonas might be right, but the sisters got their millions and titles so who gives a shit about what other people think about them?
This is just plain sad. I'd never try to make money in a way that meant everyone would dislike me. I would never follow someone who'd take their money and not care about anyone. I don't think the sisters think like that, and I feel sorry for the fans who think they do or should, and encourage such behaviour.
3. Jonas might be right, but Hingis/Kournikova/whoever are divas and asses too!
Meaning what? It's okay to be an ass if others are too? It's just a pathetic attitude.
4. The sisters might have their bad days too, and there's probably a reason beyond pure envy and racism that they're not liked everywhere. We like'em anyway, though we want them to be even better role models.
That's how I believe you should react. That's how I react if I hear bad things about Hingis. She's just a person, doing mistakes. I love her tennis, she seems to be a nice person nowadays, but I don't like it when I hear otherwise and I hope she'll behave better. I think SOME william fans should grow up and do the same. That would make this board a much nicer place. Feel free to question sources and come with arguments why they are wrong (like quoting ball boys saying Venus are nice, or point out the reason, like perhaps being dumped, that the accuser might have to come with an 'unmotivated' attack) instead of acting like children, because it doesn't win you any discussions, and it only makes people like the sisters even less when SOME fans act like clueless children.
I can admit that the biggest reasons that I don't like the sisters particularly is that SOME fans behave like they do. True, most players have such fans, but it appears to me that Williams play in their own division nowadays. It's sad, but true. I'd expect the fans to try to make their players more liked than the other way around. It's really a shame.