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Race row over Serena boos (article)

I don't think this has been posted yet and I found it interesting ( to say the least) so here ya go

Race row over Serena boos
By Richard Yallop
27jan03
AUSTRALIAN Open tennis champion Serena Williams's mother Oracene Price believes a racial element contributed to the Melbourne crowd's occasionally hostile reaction to her daughter.

Ms Price, whose daughters Serena and Venus contested Saturday's women's final, has told The New York Times she believed a racial component was involved in the crowd's resistance to an all-Williams final. Her remarks were sparked by the boos given to Serena during her semi-final on Thursday against Belgium's Kim Clijsters, who is Lleyton Hewitt's girlfriend.

Small sections of the crowd in Rod Laver Arena booed in the final set when Serena took an injury break for a blistered foot, and again when she won.

Ms Price said: "I guess it's because the environment of tennis has mostly been white. Especially over here in a culture where you see that people have conquered other people who were indigenous to this country.

"And the same thing in the US. I think it's a bit of arrogance, more or less: who has to be on top and who has to be on the bottom."

Ms Price could not be contacted yesterday, flying home to Florida with her daughters.

Former Grand Slam winner Margaret Court said she thought the jeers resulted from the length of the injury break. "I don't think it had anything to do with colour," she said. "Australian crowds respect ability, and the problem in the final was they didn't know which sister to support."

Network Seven commentator and former Davis Cup player John Alexander said: "Growing up in tennis in Sydney with Evonne Cawley, I felt crowd behaviour was never based on race."

He recalled the autobiography of former black American tennis champion Althea Gibson, who wrote that Australia was one of the first places she had not felt discrimination.

"I can understand what Oracene says because of the prejudice the family may have suffered in the US, but the reception given to Clijsters was because of her association with Lleyton, and the fact that she's the closest thing we have to a women's champion."

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Price has got to be wrong because no Aussie would ever restrict or demean another individual because their skin color was not white.

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I dont think they were racist, just ignorant idiots who dont have anyone else to support because aussie womens tennis is in shambles.
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LOL b/c I first read the title as "race row over serena's boobs")

When your run biological experiments, you need a certain type of "control" to eliminate the effect of some of the factors you are not testing. The control and the subject you are testing react similarly to every agent except the one you are testing for. Without the control, it is impossible to determine what the cause of a reaction is b/c there are so many factors that might lead to the same reaction.

Similarly, why the crowd booed serena during and after the match is hard to determine. I am not even sure whether the people doing the booing know what inner motive forced them to act as that. So, we need to run another 'control' experiment for next year AO which would have the following scenario:

-kim and lleyton break up
-serena starts dating lleyton
-the australian media labels serena "almost ozzie"
-kim and serena reach the semi
-kim takes extended injury time during the match with serena
-Observe if the crowd booes kim.
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Ms Price said: "I guess it's because the environment of tennis has mostly been white. Especially over here in a culture where you see that people have conquered other people who were indigenous to this country.
I wasn't aware that Oracene was an expert on Australia and its people.

Well, you learn something new every day.
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Kart - The issues of Australia and it's people is a matter of well documented fact, I do believe.

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Are you an expert on it as well then ?
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this is a bunch of BULL. the crowd wasbooing Serena not because of the color of her skin,but because of the fact that allof asudden she took a medical time out for blisters on her feet and she made it seem like it they hurt really bad,when in fact we people know that blisters don't hurt at all,aslong asyou don't rip off the skin. they booed her because she dug herself out of a hole there and saved herself from defeat

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Naldo, don't you think it is almost impossible for the crowd to see whether the blister was broken or not from that distant and angle? And, since when is "digging oneself out from defeat" a boo-able behavior?

I will say this again it is impossible to say why the crowd booed serena at that moment. Only few of the people who booed her would actually know. It was such a spontaneous act and, like all spontaneous acts, it's very hard for the person who booed to determine exactly why he did it. Even if they know, there is always rationalization and denial at work to muddy up the reason.
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kart - Maybe you need to do a little reading, my friend.

http://www.wilja.asn.au/

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpag...efid=761572789

http://www.culturelanguage.com.au/

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wow! you expect this from Richard but Oracene? is this source credible?

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I was planning to take a trip there for vacation but now I change my mind. One could not pay me to go there. Also, no wonder Dokic would not play there again or go back there because the Australian people would boo her off the court.
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Re: Re: Race row over Serena boos (article)

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I wasn't aware that Oracene was an expert on Australia and its people.

Well, you learn something new every day.
You have to be an expert to know that Australia is ruled by people who much like Americans raped and stole from the lands indigenous people....??????????????????????????????

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