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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 2003, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
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Kim did not choke folks......so don't start the labels

I am a little disgusted that because Kim could not capitalize on two match points against Serena in the semis, she is being labeled as a choker.

If anything, this should be a total slap in the face to Serena who dug in deep and took those two match points away from Kim.

Clijsters is not a choker. Serena is the better player.
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Jakeev I totally agree Kim is not a choker and she will show everyone who is labelling her one that in te future.

God if Kim isn't being called overrated here in GM'S then she is a choker

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post #3 of 32 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 2003, 11:46 AM
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I agree kim did not choke serena really lifted her game . Serena is the number 1 . We now know that kim can beat the williams sisters . I don't think that justine can not beat them. She does have the power tennis that the william sisters and kim play. I hope that justine does beat the sisters so that there will be more good powerful players
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why do fans here on the board whenever there are remarks about their players jump and start to defend them like they know them best. It's nice to see you are sticking up for your player but as soon as someone implies something BOOM he gets trashed. i love Kim Clijsters and only she really knows what happened (i expected her not to finish the match on her serve but at least on a break) but i never respond when some board members starts attacking my favourites (it's their opinion who am i to blame them)

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we post a reply because the media is going crazy with this choking stuff. If it had been davenport i would have put a reply also. don't like it that when someone wins there are only good things to say but when someone doesn't win they always have some nasty things to say. and it isn't only with tennis I watched the european figure skating championships and the same thing happens there also
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I'm sorry, but as number 3 of the world, you "should" win a set in which you have a 5-1 advantage (don't care how much the other player lifts her game). So imo she choked a bit. Does that make her a choker? Of course not, afterall it was the number 1 of the world who lifted her game. So, it'a bit of both (like it almost always is)

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post #7 of 32 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 2003, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
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Point is everyone is quick to assume that Kim should have just won that match. If anyone would take a very close look at that second set, you would see that the outcome of that match was definitely in Serena's hands; not Kim's.

Sorry, that's the way I see it. Serena won that match. As for JRM, not really sure what the heck you are talking about. How about elaborating more.
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Serena is a better player, but Kim also choked. Two match points and being up 5-1. Looks and sounds like a choke to me. Kim is not the first player to choke and won't be the last. What's the big deal?

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just because Kim choked this once (and she *did* choke) doesn't make her a choker. Can't remember her doing it before.
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I'm sorry, but as number 3 of the world, you "should" win a set in which you have a 5-1 advantage (don't care how much the other player lifts her game). So imo she choked a bit. Does that make her a choker? Of course not, afterall it was the number 1 of the world who lifted her game. So, it'a bit of both (like it almost always is)
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Jakeev - There's choking, and there's being a 'choker'.

If you honestly don't think Kim choked, then Serena is a LOT better than Kim.. Not a little better, a LOT better. Serena raised her game all the way from match point down to wining six straight games. I could see Serena doing that to Anna Kournikova or Laura Granville. Actually, no I can't. I can see her doing it to ME. But to a professional inthe top fifty. No. Not without some help from the opposition.

Kim choked.

Is she a choker?

A choker would have lost the Tour Championships.

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Kim choked a little. It was not a Jana Novotna gag-fest however.

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just because Kim choked this once (and she *did* choke) doesn't make her a choker. Can't remember her doing it before.
Exactly and I'll bet she's intelligent and determined enough to learn from it. My guess is we won't see that mistake from her again.

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Kim did not choke, Serena just jump started her game and stopped making so many errors. Kim has nothing to be ahamed of, she played her heart out.
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one of the matchpoints kim had a simple backhand and netted it...thats a choke....but credit to serena for everything else...
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