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To my fellow race-baiters ....

Some of you, who shall remain nameless, are giving us a bad name! Stating that the crowd is 'racist' for cheering Dani instead of Venus is .. I want to be gentle here ... really fuckin' stupid. This wasn't Indian Wells guys. Crowds are ALLOWED to choose sides. That's part of sports. And you know what? If they were cheering for Dani cause she's white, that's just fine with me.

When you get down to it, they were criticizing the linesman.

Were they rude? Sure. Inconsiderate? Totally.

Did they boo Venus at the end, or give here a big long round of applause?

The term 'racist' implies the crowd somehow though less of Venus becuase she's Black, and more of Dani because she's White. I've seen no evidence of that. The crowd may well have SIDED with Dani cause she's White, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can be PRO anyone you want, for whatever reason you want, and it's fine with me. It's when you start rooting AGAINST people because of skin color or religion or gender that I have a problem.

Why don't we save accusing people of 'racism' for times when we at least are willing to make a detailed case for the accusation, backed up by facts?

"She looks like me, I'll root for her" is not a line of reasoning I find offensive. Short-sighted? Yes. Offensive? Please.

Save it for when it means something and I've got your back. But this crowd thing is trivial. Venus can go home and count her Nike money, and decide for herself if 40 million dollars is worth having bodyguards and the crowd always cheer the white girl. Somehow, I figure she shows up for the semis.

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I agree!

I don't know or care what the crowds motivation was I know they were wrong about those calls. I love shot spot.
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Well said Volcana. Thanks.
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Re: To my fellow race-baiters ....

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Save it for when it means something and I've got your back. But this crowd thing is trivial. Venus can go home and count her Nike money, and decide for herself if 40 million dollars is worth having bodyguards and the crowd always cheer the white girl. Somehow, I figure she shows up for the semis.
so you finally realize that your Venus's never the crowd fav,
i guess these lame excuses can make you feel better than

oh well, so what Venus doesnt want any fans,
if she is happy to be unpopular, so be it,
coz nobody is cheering for her anyways......
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'crowd thing' = trivial
fhkung = trivial

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Great post Volcana...

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Volcana, I think there IS racism at the core of the "She looks like me, I'll root for her"-reasoning. If a white crowd would be rooting for a player ONLY BECAUSE she's white (and you may replace "white" with "black" or "Asian"), then they are being racist imo - however mildly.

Like when I root for a Belgian player (being Belgian myself) only because he/she is Belgian, I'm being nationalistic. Only... I don't think being nationalistic in sports is wrong: it adds some spice. I DO think being racist in sports is wrong, however.

That being said, I agree with you that crying "wolf" all the time is only pissing everybody off. I know I've had it with all those race-threads with their endless bickering.

"Why don't we save accusing people of 'racism' for times when we at least are willing to make a detailed case for the accusation, backed up by facts?" Second that!
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Good post Volcana. I never understand if racism is the case. How come the crowds love Chanda Rubin. I work out at the same club as her in Lafayette. And everytime I see her she looks African American to me...

And would it be racism that alot of posters here only got interested in tennis and root for Venus and Serena based on their skin color. Racism goes both ways.....And one can say well Venus and Serena are so nice...Well, how come your favorite player is not Seles, Clijsters, or Coetzer. Be consistent....
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Definitely an outstanding post but kind of surprised TopShotta agreed with you......he is one that cries racism often........
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Definitely an outstanding post but kind of surprised TopShotta agreed with you......he is one that cries racism often........
Your are a damn lier...

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khkung is really retarded! Does he say anything intelligent? Venus with no fans and unpopular? Is that why reebok paid her forty million? uh huh, what are you an idiot?

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Oh no I damn not TopSHotta. You are the QUEEN instigator when it comes to these topics.
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Oh no I damn not TopSHotta. You are the QUEEN instigator when it comes to these topics.
If you really read my post you would come away with the realization that I spit in the face of racism. Brush it off like a bugg. I have always said you and your likes can never do anything to affect my life because I am in fact much better than you in every way...So, no cry of racism from me. I just let people like you know what I think of you and that you not fooling me. Now bugg off and go mess with someone else you retard.

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Takes a big retard youself to call me one little boy. You spit in the face of racism? You are better than me in every way? Yeah right.

You really need to stop making yourself seem like an innocent around here young but very BIG fool. I see right through you.

Now go play on the freeway on a skateboard and leave the messageboard to actual intelligent people.
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You have been defeated now be gone...

TopShotta d. Jakpeev 6-0 6-0...

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