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YES, I finally agree...Serena Williams is one cocky b!t@h

As well she should be....

This tirade is inspired by a guy at work today who dared to say he hates Serena Williams because she is too cocky. Cockyness and trash talking is what American sports is built on. WTF???????????????? Thanks ROB…

YESm why shouldn’t she be? If you were a twenty year old multi millionaire international celebrity breaking new grounds not just as a black woman but as a female tennis player wouldn’t you be cocky too?

Serena has been through a lot as a top player and finally she has come into her own and has found herself as a top tennis player. She is not unlike Jennifer Capriatti. Prior to the 2001 Australian Open, unless Jen was playing one of the Sisters I would cheer for her. The won the title, won the French and became this raging mad woman. I have since realized that you have to cut her some slack because of her past and the fact that it can get to a person head once they overcome the adversities in their lives to reach the pinnacle of their career.

I think right now Serena is relieved that she finally found her way back to Grand Slam Glory. She found the spark that took her to her first Grand Slam title and like most Americans do she is talking a little trash. Undoubtedly, ’99 was her break out year. She won in Paris, defeated the LEGENDARY Steffi Graf and took Indian Wells, made the finals of the Lipton, won Manhattan Beach, and took the US Open in dramatic fashion. Did we not expect her to keep rolling going into the 2000 season? What happened?

She showed up at OZ rusty and unprepared and was subsequently pushed in all her matches. She lost in the fourth round to Elena Likhovtseva 3 and 3. WTF??????????????? We were all shocked. She then lost in Paris to Tauziat , Pierce spanked her 2 and 1 at Indian Wells, lost to Jen two weeks later in Miami (the first of many to come), lost shockingly the following week to Paola Suarez??????? WTF???????????????????? (by this time even Serena had to be giving up on Serena) What happened to the girl that won the US Open???????????????????????????. She showed flashes of the ’99 “Brick House Steam Roller” during the summer starting at Wimbledon. She was the player to beat, which Venus did in the Semi, she won the Esytles in dramatic fashion over Lindsay, she showed great form at the Canadian Open and appeared as if she would win the final but had to retire after winning the first set 6-0. She looked happles against Lindsay in the quarter finals of the US Open. She looked up to her family in the stand as if to say “what the fuck is going on with me”? She could not defend her title.

She started 2001 much the same way she ended 2000. Lost in the qfinal of the adiddas to Martina, lost a marathon qfinal at the Oz Open to Martina (a match that the Serena of today would have won even if Martina was in top form), things picked up, she won Indian Wells and then went on to lose in the qfinal of Miami to Jen Capp (a player that would prove to be a mental block for Serena the rest of that season). In fact, the next tourney Serena played was the French Open where in the quarters she again ran into Jen and had lots of opportunities to win the match and just could not do so. Her next tourney was Wimbledon, again in the quarters she met Capriati. “Wild thing was on court that day and after leading a set and a break, she lost in three to Jenn????????????????????????? I remember being at work and was confident that she would win the match after leading a set and a break and almost had a heart attack when someone called me from home and told me she blew it. I all but gave up on her. After that, an inform Monica beat her in LA. Then she moved on to Canada. That is where it all turned around. She really raised her game and should some serious consistency. She won that title, made the final of the US Open (beating Davenport in the quarters, blitzing Hingis in the semi before losing to her sister Venus in the final). We all know what happened after that. The tour championships at the end of 2001, three straight grand slam titles in 2002….

I say all this to say that YES SHE IS COCKY….But she has earned the right to be. It has not been an easy road for Serena. I think that all champions know that once you have tasted grand slam victory, you are hooked and it took Serena a while to get back there. Lots of bumps in the road. She resided in the cellar of the top ten for a couple of years and clawed her way out. WAY TO GO SERENA. KEEP BEING COCKY AS LONG AS YOU CAN BACK IT UP….

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No one deserves to be cocky, being cocky is bad and doesn't earn friends or respect.

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With all due respect... I just dont see it that way...

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I don't know about Serena, but her fans should be COCKY!!

I won't forget those dumbass folks who said her and Venus woud never win a MATCH, A SLAM, A TOURNAMENT, A POINT. Tried to cover up their hate with the bullshit. " Serena is all power" BLAH THIS and BALH that.... Oh SERENA AND VENUS WILL *NEVER* be #1. I am enjoying my cocky comments right now in time.

Well I am loving the fact that V@S shut them all up. So yeah I am cocky. Serena is a bit cocky too, and big deal. Being a little cocky is not bad. Ask Kim, cause I am soooooooooo sure she can tell you alot about her boyfriend's attitude.

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There's nothing wrong with being cocky. It's like flirting. Essentially harmless. I go into a fight and I cheerfully tell the opponent I'm gonna kick their ass from here to China. Sometimes you eat the bear. Sometimes the bear eats you. To paraphrase Serena said after Chanda beat her.

"She must have played great, cause I played great and she beat me."

These are not the words of a person with a low opinion of herself. But why SHOULD she have a low opinion of herself?

SHE'S THE BEST IN THE DAMN WORLD!

It's been a very long time since we had a number one who exuded modesty. And before you say 'Monica', I rememebr the ego and fashion spreads of the early 90's. 'Cocky' would be a stretch to call Monica. But in 1990, 'modest' wasn't exactly it either. (I am aware of the lack of a comparison. I've NEVER seen a tennis player wear a TIARA on the court.)

Serena is relentless in the belief that she controls her own destiny. I got noooooo problem with that.

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Not directly to SW....but there IS a difference in being cocky and being arrogant and petulant.
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i have no problem with Serena being cocky and arrogant. if that what it takes for her to be #1, then so be it. in fact a lot of past #1 players get accused of being C&A so maybe being C&A is a requirement for domination.

i loved Hingis at the height of her cockiness and arrogance. that's where her amazing self-confidence came from. the minute she lost access to her C&A resources, she started folding like a wet napkin.

but i do understand that some people do not like cocky and arrogant people. they prefer their tennis faves to be humbler and nicer. that's fine too. to each his/her own.

give me the cocky and arrogant Hingises and Serenas any day. thay are more fun to watch...

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There is a thin line between being cocky and showing confidence and belief. There are many intelligent ways in which you can tell them apart but I usually go by the fact that confidence is so sexy and cockyness is not.

Serena has confidence and belief and so she should.
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That's great and now I want VENUS to get cocky and shake up the whole damn tour.

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No one deserves to be cocky, being cocky is bad and doesn't earn friends or respect.
well she has my respect

oh yeah it made her very rich too

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well she has my respect

oh yeah it made her very rich too
I think she's rich because of her results, if everyone who's cocky would be rich...

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well she has my respect

oh yeah it made her very rich too
LOL @ Irm...

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Muhahmmad Ali has friends and respect and he is cocky as hell.

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TopShotta, according to your theory, Monica Seles should be damned cocky and arrogant. She won just about every GS title before the stabbing and then sufferred for over 2 years before winning the Aussie in 1996....didn't she earn the right to be cocky after winning after so long?! Her road was much tougher than anything Serena has had to go through.


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