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post #1 of 60 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 2013, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

As we already have a thread comparing so-called "GOAT"s of two different sports series, why not also compare the GOATs of WTA and F1?

My subjective opinion is Graf. Graf won her titles by herself, Schumacher wouldn't have won 7 World titles without a great team. The team of Schumacher, Ross Brawn, and Rory Byrne on the other hand is even more of a GOAT than Steffi Graf.

But my objective opinion is Schumacher. I dare to say people know Schumacher's sports achievements better than Graf's.
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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

Neither. Senna is One True GOAT

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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

To close to tell...Both in their own way...
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I deliberately put Schuey to this poll. The previous "greater GOAT?" thread had one real and one fake GOAT so this also needs to have one real and one fake.
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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

Graff has more grand slams, so I think it's her

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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

Graf. Not that close. Since wining the F1 championship is based on accumulating the most points in a season the only valid comparison is to YE #1. Graf has 8, Schumacher 7. Overall individual wins - Graf 107, Schumacher 91.Factor in that wining a race = drive one day and come in first, winning a tennis title = play and win on 5 or more days and IMO there's no contest

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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

In any case we know who Pova's pick is


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Graff has more grand slams, so I think it's her
This statistic is also called Grand Slam in F1. No-one has five (calendar-year) grand slams in tennis like Schuey has, let alone Jim Clark with 8 grand slams.
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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

Graf got a lot of her slams because one of her FANS and COUNTRYMAN (Parche Gunter) stabbed her main opposition giving her a free shot at that slams..

This will always come up with fair minded people when you talk about RECORDS, and GRAF. Talk about how she played, and leave the records alone!

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Re: Greater GOAT: Steffi Graf or Michael Schumacher?

Only a few months ago, Lance Armstrong would be eligible for such comparisons (up there with Federer etc.).

How things change.

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This statistic is also called Grand Slam in F1. No-one has five (calendar-year) grand slams in tennis like Schuey has, let alone Jim Clark with 8 grand slams.
I don't care what they want to call it - winning the pole, leading the entire race & having the fastest lap is squat compared to winning a tennis major. In fact, it's squat even compared to winning a golf major. And yeah I am also a fan of motorsport.

BTW Grand Slam in tennis originally meant "winning all the majors in a single year" The four majors were referred to as "the tournaments that make up the Grand Slam" that was shortened to the "the four Grand Slam" tournaments and here we are today where most people call each major a Grand Slam.

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Only a few months ago, Lance Armstrong would be eligible for such comparisons (up there with Federer etc.).

How things change.
I'm waiting for some big name getting caught doping and then I'll open a comparision poll against Armstrong.

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I don't care what they want to call it - winning the pole, leading the entire race & having the fastest lap is squat compared to winning a tennis major. In fact, it's squat even compared to winning a golf major. And yeah I am also a fan of motorsport.

BTW Grand Slam in tennis originally meant "winning all the majors in a single year" The four majors were referred to as "the tournaments that make up the Grand Slam" that was shortened to the "the four Grand Slam" tournaments and here we are today where most people call each major a Grand Slam.
I know, F1 "grand slam" is far from tennis grand slam. I just couldn't help posting that to respond to Freak3y.
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Graf got a lot of her slams because one of her FANS and COUNTRYMAN (Parche Gunter) stabbed her main opposition giving her a free shot at that slams..

This will always come up with fair minded people when you talk about RECORDS, and GRAF. Talk about how she played, and leave the records alone!
No. Sorry. More like that will always come up with wankers who deal in "what ifs." No one knows what would have happened if Seles had not been stabbed. Plus her stabbing took about 3 months to fully heal. Her mental issues were all her own. And from the few book excerpts I've read they were simmering before that incident. I'd wager that had that happened to S.Williams she'd have been back kicking ass the next year. It's pathetic to try to diminish any player's accomplishments by whining about "well if this thing hadn't happened to some other player."

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