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And Federer is still running on the QF streak.

Anyway this not even close, Federer is the GOAT on the mens side, Serena is still a notch or two behind it.

Slam wise is close, Federer still leads, carreer wise there is no comparisson, like around 50 more titles from Roger. Consistency at the top of the game. More dominating while at the top (3 slams in 3 years , Serena only managed this only once, all 4 grand slam finals in two consecutive seasons, Serena has NEVER done this).
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Federer - 76
Serena - 48

However, keep in mind that Serena hasn't even played her 700th career MATCH, while Roger's played almost 1100 matches.

And, not only has Federer played more matches than Serena, he has missed 0 majors since 1999 when he lost in the qualies for the AO. Serena has missed 11 majors (including 3 where she was the defending champion: 2003 USO, 2004 AO, 2011 AO and 2 where she had won the slam prior to the one she missed 2010 USO, 2005 FO...and of course the 2002 AO).

So, a little perspective is necessary...

Serena's career W/L: 84% Roger's: 82%
Serena's finals W/L: 75% Roger's: 69%
Serena's major W/L: 87% Roger's: 87%
Serena's major finals W/L: 79% Roger's: 71%

Roger has numbers, but it's not like his career is WAAAAAY better than Serena's.

Now yes, if we talk about years winning multiple slams/reaching multiple finals, sure Roger comes out on top:
Years reaching 4/4 Major Finals: Roger: 3 (2006, 2007, 2009) Serena: 0
Years reaching 3/4 Major Finals: Roger: 2 (2004, 2008) Serena: 1 (2002)

...but:
Years reaching 2/4 Major Finals: Roger: 1 (2005) Serena: 5 (2003, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012)

...and if you want to talk about "dominance":
Majors won without dropping a set: Serena: 4 Roger: 1

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steffi graf has 22 slams and yet the GOAT debaters question her potential against a hypothetical un-stabbed version of seles when graf actually maintained a respectable record against her before stabbing......they question about something which din't even happen, graf vs "fit" seles......
But but unlike Steffi yer boy at his peak got smoked 6-2 6-2 6-2 (and I dont' even have to tell you when and by whom ) but the point is that that can't be a "goaty" resumé.

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I thought this thread/poll was a joke - but you took the hilarity up a notch.
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Serena's career W/L: 84% Roger's: 82%
Serena's finals W/L: 75% Roger's: 69%
Serena's major W/L: 87% Roger's: 87%
Serena's major finals W/L: 79% Roger's: 71%
Roger had to play against Nadal and Djokovic , thay are both better opposition than any of Serena's opponents, Nadal is already in double digits and Novak will be in 2-3 years

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Capriati finals W/L 100%, just to show how useless is your statistics
Yes but Capriati is a 3 slam winner, she's in Sharapova's league. Not GOAT league like Serena with 15 slams or Roger with 17 slams. The stat is relevant.

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Capriati finals W/L 100%, just to show how useless is your statistics
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So, a little perspective is necessary...
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at people who take the results of Tennisforum polls at heart... if there was a poll "Who is greater between Serena and Nancy Loeffler-Caro", Caro would probably still get 20% of all the vote ...
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Haven't seen Federer lose to a Razzano like player in the opening round of a grand slam or even a Jill Craybas type player in a grand slam.

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Roger had to play against Nadal and Djokovic , thay are both better opposition than any of Serena's opponents, Nadal is already in double digits and Novak will be in 2-3 years

Nice edit


Does that also mean that Steffi is less great because no one else in her era won double digit majors?

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Roger had to play against Nadal and Djokovic , thay are both better opposition than any of Serena's opponents, Nadal is already in double digits and Novak will be in 2-3 years
Yes but that's all he had. Serena has had more rivals in Justine, Venus, Hingis, Sharapova, Clijsters - all are HOF worthy careers with multiple slams.

Nice try, try again.

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Haven't seen Federer lose to a Razzano like player in the opening round of a grand slam or even a Jill Craybas type player in a grand slam.
That's her only 1st round loss and came after she turned 30. Federer lost in the 1st round of slams 6 times.

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just a disastrous poll result.....
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just a disastrous poll result.....
Not surprised though because with Serena still beating a lot of their favourites, they're so bitter this is the only way they can beat her back.

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just a disastrous poll result.....
this....i feel ashamed of the result, really...and serena was even leading a time before

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Not surprised though because with Serena still beating a lot of their favourites, they're so bitter this is the only way they can beat her back.
that's what i thought......this forum is not just serena vs sharapova......it is serena vs several bland wta blondes......
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