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Zero pointers of the top 3

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Azarenka will receive a zero in her ranking calculation, as Dubai is a WTA Premier 700 tournament that she committed to; if a player withdraws from such an event, she has no chance to make up the points elsewhere. The world No. 2 also has zeroes in her ranking (which counts up to 18 tournaments) from Rome and Canada.

Williams has zeroes in her ranking from skipping Indian Wells and Beijing, while No. 3 Maria Sharapova has zeroes from missing Canada and Cincinnati.



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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

What does it actually mean? They just get no points? If so, I don't see what the problem is. If they were getting points taken off then it would be more shocking.

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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

Article is so wrong. Vika only has one zero, dubai.

More importantly only 16 tournaments count
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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

Sharapova has a third zero in her ranking for skipping Charleston last year.

Azarenka is due to lose 125 ranking points come Monday February 25th for receiving a zero for Dubai 2013.

Serena needs to win more than 225 points in Dubai this week in order to start increasing the lead over Azarenka.

It is great that Azarenka skipped Dubai, now Serena can safely keep the #1 ranking right up to Miami without any pressure.
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What does it actually mean? They just get no points? If so, I don't see what the problem is. If they were getting points taken off then it would be more shocking.
Well it can in effect lose you points. If Vika's 16th best result was 200 points and she gets a 0 pointer for skipping Dubai, her 16th best result falls off her ranking (even if it hasn't been on for 52 weeks) as the 0 pointer has to be included in a players best 16 results. Also a player could play a tournament after her 0 pointer and say make 250 points, but them not add to her ranking as her 15th best result maybe 300 points and thus the 0 pointer prevents the 250 points being added to the players total as their 16th best result has to be the 0 pointer.

A 0 pointer only means nothing if the player has played less than 16 tournaments, or the players 16th best result is 1 point (thus only losing them a single point).

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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

Did the WTA vultures Radwanska and Wozniacki ever had a 0 pointer ?
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The world No. 2 also has zeroes in her ranking (which counts up to 18 tournaments) from Rome and Canada.
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She won a match in Rome, how on earth she could have a Zero pointer from there??? Also retired in Canada, thats 1 point, not zero.
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16 tournaments counts to her ranking. She had a Zero from last year Dubai, and now she'll replace that with this year Dubai's Zero pointer.
Rome (125pts) and Canada(1pt) will remain her 17th & 18th result.
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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

Lol at this article, they could have done more research.
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Well it can in effect lose you points. If Vika's 16th best result was 200 points and she gets a 0 pointer for skipping Dubai, her 16th best result falls off her ranking (even if it hasn't been on for 52 weeks) as the 0 pointer has to be included in a players best 16 results. Also a player could play a tournament after her 0 pointer and say make 250 points, but them not add to her ranking as her 15th best result maybe 300 points and thus the 0 pointer prevents the 250 points being added to the players total as their 16th best result has to be the 0 pointer.

A 0 pointer only means nothing if the player has played less than 16 tournaments, or the players 16th best result is 1 point (thus only losing them a single point).
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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

-Maria has 3 Zeros (Charleston, Cincinnati, Canada). She'll gain automatically 225pts(Tokyo) when Charleston Zero drops out.
-Serena has IW & Beijing. But Dubai is her 17th tournament, so either Dubai or Cincinnati(225pts) wont count to her total.
-Na has Dubai & Doha.
-Azarenka has Dubai.

Thats all right now in top10 i think.

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-Maria has 3 Zeros (Charleston, Cincinnati, Canada). She'll gain automatically 225pts(Tokyo) when Charleston Zero drops out.
-Serena has IW & Beijing. But Dubai is her 17th tournament, so either Dubai or Cincinnati(225pts) wont count to her total.
-Na has Dubai & Doha.
-Azarenka has Dubai.

Thats all right now in top10 i think.

I think Petra had zeroes from doha (just replaced) and dubai (about to be replaced) last year too

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I think Petra had zeroes from doha (just replaced) and dubai (about to be replaced) last year too
yeah true, but those are gone now.

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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

In real terms this doesn't matter much. Azarenka will only play approx 16 tournaments probably for the year, so getting 1 zero pointer will have minimal effect in the long term.
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Re: Zero pointers of the top 3

Cronin really needs to check all his facts are correct before publishing instead of rushing to get out a piece that has SO many mistakes.
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