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post #1 of 64 (permalink) Old Dec 27th, 2002, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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Best court coverage- Jennifer or Venus?

Which player covers the court best, front to back, at net, side to side? The commentators always praise Jennifer for superior coverage, but is Venus (or Serena) better?
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When Jen is on she can go side to side better than anyone, but she doesn't go to the net nearly enough, so over all I'm not sure if she has the best coverage.

Serena goes side to side just as well and comes up to the net, but front to back I'm not sure.

Haven't watched Venus enough to say.
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venus is the best defensive player imo, she can reach so many balls and return them, serena can so many balls too but sometimes she doesnt return them well enough on the run...venus can make a defensive shot into an offensive shot...

jen is very fast too, but venus is faster and uses her long legs and arms to add to that...



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Best court coverage: Serena.. if you watched the Wimbledon final you know what I´m talking about. Serena tracked down every ball Venus was sending her way and if you can track down every ball from Venus you must have the best court coverage. Jenny is had good court coverage too!
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Venus has the best court coverage and her records over Serena and Jen prove that. If you watched the 2000 US OPEN,the 2000 Wimbeldon, the 2001 US OPEN and 2001 Wimbeldon, you can see that. Also if you watched all her matches with Jennifer you will note that Venus covered the court alot better then Jennifer did against Venus.

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post #6 of 64 (permalink) Old Dec 27th, 2002, 05:23 PM
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Best court coverage:

1. Venus
2. Serena
3. Capriati
4. Clijsters


Beat'em down Ms Williams, beat'em down!
SERENA PRINCESS OF POWER

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post #7 of 64 (permalink) Old Dec 27th, 2002, 05:35 PM
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Serena/ Venus are better than Jennifer because their net play are better and they are just plain faster.
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post #8 of 64 (permalink) Old Dec 27th, 2002, 05:48 PM
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How does net play have anything to do with court coverage? I think Venus covers the court better than Jen because of her speed and reach. I think Jen and Serena are about even in this department.
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Best court coverage: Serena.. if you watched the Wimbledon final you know what I´m talking about. Serena tracked down every ball Venus was sending her way and if you can track down every ball from Venus you must have the best court coverage. Jenny is had good court coverage too!
Serena at Wimby was just too good. Serena did not have to track down the shots Venus did. Serena was putting those ferocious shots dead in the corners but had to hit shot after shot to get them pass the awesome defense of Venus. I have never seen any tennis player ever play that well. Serena was just plain awesome!

Beat'em down Ms Williams, beat'em down!
SERENA PRINCESS OF POWER

Victoria Duval - coming to a slam near you
Françoise Abanda definitely a future #1 --- Taylor Townsend devastation on the march
Venus and Serena ferocious grannies --- Kimiko Date Krumm great granny still doing her thing.
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NJjeff....how can Jennifer and Serena be even on court coverage?! Look at L.A.: 42 winners for Serena vs 12 for Capriati. How can they be even when serena has nearly 3 times as much winners as Capriati?! Court coverage means you get to all balls!!
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NJjeff....how can Jennifer and Serena be even on court coverage?! Look at L.A.: 42 winners for Serena vs 12 for Capriati. How can they be even when serena has nearly 3 times as much winners as Capriati?! Court coverage means you get to all balls!!
WTF?
The amount of winners you make has nothing to do with your court coverage!
Pistolesi has a great court coverage, and so does Coetzer, but they are lucky just to hit one winner per match!
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That´s crap Glenn! You can´t compare Capriati´s game to Coetzers´!! Capriati and Serena play the same style and yet Serena hit nearly three times the winners as Capriati. This means that the most points that Capriati won were because serena made an unforced error. So how can Capriati have a better court coverage than Serena when Capriati could barely hit winners against Serena and Serena did this most of the time?!!
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I don't know if you saw the match... but Capriati's tactic wasn't to overpower Serena, it was to make her play for the points, that's what works best against Serena too, because she's so erratic.

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I hear that you aren´t a fan of Serena.

Oh I see! A good tactic!! That´s why she went a whole year without beating Serena! Me think: Jenny CAN´T overpower Serena, because Serena gets to every ball!! That´s what me think!Nothing tactic, because if tactic ain´t working you should change it! Or am I mistaken?!
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I agree 100% with Glenn.. winners have nothing to do with it. I am talking only about court coverage. To use 1 match to back your claim without also indicating the unforced error counts doesn't influence me much at all. Plus the high unforced error count of Serena you elude to could be a compliment to Jen's coverage around the court. Jen makes her go for too much, and Serena make errors.

Nuriboy.. no disputes that V&S are the best in the game at the moment, not even the biggest JCap fans. But is it at all possible to you that V&S may not be the best at every element of the game? I only gave my opinion that Jen is an equal to Serena in one area, and you couldn't even accept that!
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