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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

Glad Serena got the #1. She deserves it.

As for Petra, this has to an encouraging loss. I only watched the first set but she was pretty impressive. Finally moving her feet properly. Hoping she can build on that.
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Good stuff By Serena to gain the #1 again, but I must say I have probably underrated the reaction that Serena got upon taking the #1 ranking, it's been somewhat substantial on here. I do get the feeling that the #1 ranking's going to be passed around a few times before 2013 has finished.
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Hmm i think it would have been smarter for azderaki to have a bodyguard courtside.. anyway im glad everything went well!! Congrats to servebot! She can be glad kvitova choked away a nice lead in the deciding set
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People on this board use the word "choke" too loosely. It was unrealistic to expect Petra to play at that level the entire match, when most are even agreeing it's the best she's played against a top player since YEC '11. Players like Kvitova who go for so much on every shot are always going to be in danger of playing a loose game. Besides, heading into the service game at 4-2, Petra was already serving at 44% for the set, and that's including all the games she won to go up 4-1 in the first place.

Just pulled up the match on YT, and help me out here: Where is the choke?

Serena's 4-1 service game, point by point
Baseline rally #1, Kvitova hits a winner. 0-15.
Baseline rally #2, Kvitova hits an error. 15-15.
Baseline rally #3, Kvitova hits an error. 30-15.
Serena hits an unreturnable 1st serve. 40-15.
Serena's big serve sets up a forehand putaway. Game Serena.

Petra's 4-2 service game, point by point:
Serena draws Kvitova out wide forcing a FH error. 0-15.
Serena nets a ROS. 15-15.
Serena's deep ROS draws an error. 15-30.
Kvitova's great first serve sets up a FH putaway. 30-30.
Serena's deep ROS sets up a FH winner. 30-40.
Kvitova's DF. Game Serena.
Similar story in the next game, went to deuce but Serena finally found some first serves when she needed them, and after that it was (in hindsight) a formality. I knew right away that if Kvitova wanted to win this match she would have had to win that game at 4-2, but she didn't, and she paid. Hopefully she'll take this as a learning experience, but calling it a "choke" just screams someone who wasn't paying attention to the match.

Maybe what you interpret as choke is simply not being clutch. Kvitova is a player of the type that can outplay anyone, but is rarely the one I'll put my money one when it gets down to the wire, 5-5 30-30 in a deciding set.
Great post as usual, and even greater points.

Btw...
Two words that are typically overused and misused on in this forum are ...

"Class" and "Choke".

Also, thank you for the match link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

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Great post as usual, and even greater points.

Btw...
Two words that are typically overused and misused on in this forum are ...

"Class" and "Choke".

Also, thank you for the match link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
From my point of view, after watching her match a second time, there was no chokes in this match. Serena upped her level of play a lot from the 6th game on in the 3rd set. Even a blind person could see that. The way Serena was fighting midway through the 3rd set on if she keeps this level of play up tomorrow Sharapova will win very few games.
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From my point of view, after watching her match a second time, there was no chokes in this match. Serena upped her level of play a lot from the 6th game on in the 3rd set. Even a blind person could see that. The way Serena was fighting midway through the 3rd set on if she keeps this level of play up tomorrow Sharapova will win very few games.
I'm in the middle of watching the match right now because I want to see first-hand where this so-called "choke" happened.

I truly believe that it's posters just not wanting to give credit to Serena, and so fabricate the "choke" scenario to feel good about themselves and their favs.

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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

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Hmm i think it would have been smarter for azderaki to have a bodyguard courtside.. anyway im glad everything went well!! Congrats to servebot! She can be glad kvitova choked away a nice lead in the deciding set
You didn't even watch the match lmao. Petra didn't choke you piece of shit. Stay pressed Maybe your fav will get a win against Serena tomorrow for once in 8 or so years. Serena looks sick so maybe she'll have even a tiny chance!
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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

It's great to see Serena back at the ranking she undeniably deserves, where ahe belongs, especially considering how much it means to her.

Better still that she did so in a strong well-fought match against a player who at full flight has the potential to beat anyone, including the previous #1.

I hope that Petra now realizes that it isn't impossible for her to beat Serena, and takes that knowledge onto the court with her at Wimbledon. She really deserves to be Venus's predecessor on grass.
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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

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Thank you Vika



People on this board use the word "choke" too loosely. It was unrealistic to expect Petra to play at that level the entire match, when most are even agreeing it's the best she's played against a top player since YEC '11. Players like Kvitova who go for so much on every shot are always going to be in danger of playing a loose game. Besides, heading into the service game at 4-2, Petra was already serving at 44% for the set, and that's including all the games she won to go up 4-1 in the first place.

Just pulled up the match on YT, and help me out here: Where is the choke?

Serena's 4-1 service game, point by point
Baseline rally #1, Kvitova hits a winner. 0-15.
Baseline rally #2, Kvitova hits an error. 15-15.
Baseline rally #3, Kvitova hits an error. 30-15.
Serena hits an unreturnable 1st serve. 40-15.
Serena's big serve sets up a forehand putaway. Game Serena.

Petra's 4-2 service game, point by point:
Serena draws Kvitova out wide forcing a FH error. 0-15.
Serena nets a ROS. 15-15.
Serena's deep ROS draws an error. 15-30.
Kvitova's great first serve sets up a FH putaway. 30-30.
Serena's deep ROS sets up a FH winner. 30-40.
Kvitova's DF. Game Serena.
Similar story in the next game, went to deuce but Serena finally found some first serves when she needed them, and after that it was (in hindsight) a formality. I knew right away that if Kvitova wanted to win this match she would have had to win that game at 4-2, but she didn't, and she paid. Hopefully she'll take this as a learning experience, but calling it a "choke" just screams someone who wasn't paying attention to the match.

Maybe what you interpret as choke is simply not being clutch. Kvitova is a player of the type that can outplay anyone, but is rarely the one I'll put my money one when it gets down to the wire, 5-5 30-30 in a deciding set.


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Petra! So close... Hope this won't take down her confidence again.

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Re: Doha QF: New XEWTA No.1 Serena Williams def. Petra Kvitova in an EPIC 3-6 6-3 7-5

Had Rena lost this match QuarterRena would have made a comeback

Rena getting so many people pressed over a non-slam tourney result.

Petra's day will come eventually.

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Kvitova never choked, her play didn't amount to a choke, she played great ...the problem is she was facing the greatest female tennis player in the 21st Century. She didn't choke she was beaten fair and square like Serena did with;
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2) Dementieva 2009 Wimby SF (I love how Serena denied her every freaking opportunity to win a slam, feels delicious that her fan is perennially seething in this forum, love it )

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