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post #1 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
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Can we call Monica the geatest?!

In the spirit of all those stabbing threads, I decided to make this one. In the three years before the stabbing Monica was really at another level than anyone and clearly DOMINATING tennis like never before. I mean not even Graf in her days didn´t win 8 of 9 GS´s she played. Can we say that if it weren´t for the stabbing Monica Seles would have go down as the greatest and that´s why we should just do that?! Monica the greatest?!!

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post #2 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 02:54 PM
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If I could bump this thread way down I would...
There's been like 1154156456 of these...

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yes, without a doubt.

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If I could bump this thread way down I would...
There's been like 1154156456 of these...
If you people don't know by now monica's 10 th anniversary of the stabbing is coming up...be nice.
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It's not about Monica, I love Monica, but the same question over and over again...
It's getting too much!

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post #6 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 03:09 PM
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post #7 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 03:36 PM
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Monica is the greatest:

-- She had a dominating 4-1 record in grandslam finals against Graf & Navratilova up until the stabbing, and she was only getting stronger.
-- She won 7 of the last 8 slams she entered, won 8 slams at 19.

and most importantly

--- She is always gracious in victory or defeat, she's a true role model
--- Despite everything that has happened to her, such as the stabbing which ruined her career and changed her mentality towards her sport, the death of her father & coach after a long battle with cancer, the hundreds of setbacks due to injuries, the injustices from the wta tour, the german court, etc. SHE IS STILL OUT THERE COMPETING because NOBODY loves tennis more then Monica.

She is the ultimate champion every way you look at it.
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post #8 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 04:04 PM
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Re: Can we call Monica the geatest?!

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I mean not even Graf in her days didn´t win 8 of 9 GS´s she played.
Nuriboy your love Fanatic and frenetic when talking about Monica Just make me sick. Please keep true facts when talking.

Graf won From Australian Open 88 to Australian Open 90 8 of 9 Grand Slams Played.

Now that she did you`ll maybe start to mention now that she did but with and old Evert, Martina, poor Gaby, Arantxa,a etc and so on.

Graf also won from 1993-1996 9 of 12 Grand Slams as well.

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18 Grand Slam SF´s, Won 27 titles, 1 GS Sin, 1 GS in Dubs,2 Masters
Sabatini vs Martinez ?
Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 9
Straight Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 6
Seasons in the top 5: Sabatini 6 Conchita 5
Straight seasons in the top 5: Sabatini 6 Conchita 4
Tier II and above titles
Sabatini 24 Martinez 17
Record at the Masters
Sabatini has 2 titles 2 Runner up and 3 SF
Martinez has 0 titles, 0 RU, and 0 Sf
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Yes,for me Monica is the greatest no matter what happened.The best champion tennis has ever had.

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post #10 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 04:31 PM
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1. No, period.
A player short of Wimbledon cannot be the greatest ever.
Greatest ever is a game played by Graf, Lenglen, Wills, Connolly, Navratilova and Court.
Choose one according to criteria you like.
Seles is not in this bunch.
IMHO

2. Those who say Seles dominated Graf are
A) younger than 10 ys old at the time
B) blinded seles fans
C) obsessed with Graf's achievements
D) one of the possible combination of A, B and C

Sorry for the not-so-Xmas-like msg, but i'm with Glenn.
Bored of these threads and, more than this, bored with the ingenuities ALL them unavoidably bring to.

Merry Xmas anyhow!
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post #11 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 04:34 PM
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and petosp (by far Xmas atmosphere is gone) , don't demand "exact" numbers from Nuriboy.
He quotes casually and then answer you with an "ahahahah".

Eaten well, Nuri?
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Do you morons ever get tired of having the same argument again and again?
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post #13 of 104 (permalink) Old Dec 25th, 2002, 04:42 PM
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Now "moron" seems really a bit too off, KL, it's Christmas time after all!
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Alright, alright. Merry christmas, do intelligent individuals such as yourseleves ever get tired of having the same argument?
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alright Way! I get it, I get it. Don´t have to keep throwing it in my face!! I get it...no more laughing! Now on the question:
Petosp, are you stupid or what?! Sorry for the X-mas feeling. I mean if we´re talking the Monica BEFORE the stabbing you cannot come with the grand slams AFTER the stabbing!! Can´t you read or what?!
Secondly, of course Steffi would go on to win all those GS´s because the REAL no. 1 was away from the sport or is this also a mistake?! And my point is that she was greater than Steffi when it mattered because of this statistic: 3-1 in GS finals!! Got that?! Steffi couldn´t beat her in GS finals!! And remember I´m talking before the stabbing. Of course after the stabbing the things weren´t the same, so don´t be FOOLISH petosp!!
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