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Who is most responsible for Martina Hingis' mental scars.

Order the following players by who are most responsible for Hingis' mental scars.
Venus
Serena
Jennifer
Lyndsay
Steffie
Jelena

Each one of these players have dealt a blow to hingis confidence. If I were to order them they would be
Steffie
Jennifer
Serena
Venus
Lyndsay
Jelena

I am not conceited, I am just convinced
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The only two I would have is Steffi Graf and Venus Williams.

Steffi for the 99 Roland Garros
Venus for 00 US Open
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so dallas,
Jennifer's australian open win had no effect on Hingis

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Jennifer, Steffi
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so dallas,
Jennifer's australian open win had no effect on Hingis
I'm not saying that. But the mental scars were there BEFORE Jennifer beat her. They are what caused her to lose the Aussie Open. She was scared way before Jen beat her.
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It's threads like these which makes me hope even more that Marti comes back.
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It's threads like these which makes me hope even more that Marti comes back.
What is wrong with this thread?

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1. Steffi
2. Jennifer
3. Serena
4. Venus
5. Lindsay
6. Jelena

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Steffi and then Jenni

if 1999 rg DIDN'T happen then she wouldn't have had problems closing out the next two AO gs
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What is wrong with this thread?
I'd like to know to.
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post #11 of 67 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 2002, 10:53 PM
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did i actually say there was anything wrong with it?!

To be perfectly honest I don't think Steffi Graf is responsible for anything to do with "mental scars". What happened that day was down to Marti not keeping good temperament, and of course another trademark display of ineptitude from the now thankfully retired Anne Laissere-Ullrich.

Venus and Serena have contributed to Marti's current downfall, but to be honest, if Marti's gonna come back (which I really hope she will), she's going to have to change her game. Not entirely but steps will have to be made, and she's going to have to change the way she thinks about tennis. She needs some of that cockiness back which made people either a fan (as she did with me) or someone to dislike... one or the other.. People at the top eitehr have admirers or dislikers, you rarely get people who have an "mm, they're alright" attitude to those who are successful.

Anyway, I don't think we should be signalling the end of her career just yet.
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why is jelena always last on the list??????i woul put her the 3rd because she kicked her ass in the 1st round of Wimbledon. hello. and she's always been challenging her ever since!

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why is jelena always last on the list??????i woul put her the 3rd because she kicked her ass in the 1st round of Wimbledon. hello. and she's always been challenging her ever since!
Really? Odd, the H2H says different

1999-01-18 Australian Open Hardcourt R32 Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-1 6-2
1999-06-21 Wimbledon Grass R128 Jelena Dokic (YUG) 6-2 6-0
2000-10-09 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt R16 Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-3 6-2
2001-08-27 U.S. Open Hardcourt R16 Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-4 6-0
2002-08-12 Montreal Hardcourt QF Jelena Dokic (YUG) 6-4 6-3
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post #15 of 67 (permalink) Old Dec 21st, 2002, 12:20 AM
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that's gotta be Steffi......
i've hated her ever since,

2nd has gotta be Jen,
she was that close.....
being beaten by the same player
at same time, same place,
that's gotta be some blow...

Williams to a lesser degree,
coz she had beaten Venus many times,
and she still managed to beat Serena
3 straight times after US Open,
it's more of a realization of new tennis styles
rather than mental scar,

Dokic got lucky back then,
she just found a way to beat Hingis,
like Hantuchova did in Indian Wells.....
but she has been pathetic against her since then,
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