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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 2002, 02:25 AM Thread Starter
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Top 16 OZ seeds as they SHOULD be

Based on current form, and how they played Down Under last year.

01 Clijsters
02 Capriati

03 Serena
04 Venus

05 JH2
06 Seles
07 Stevenson
08 Schnyder

09 Pistolesi
10 Maleeva
11 Farina Elia
12 Hantuchova

13 Dementieva
14 Davenport
15 Myskina
16 Rubin

What I did was, I took their results Down Under
last year, and balanced them with the players
last three tournaments. To an extent, I
account for both current form, and surface.

The method offers no forgiveness for injury.
Serena, Lindsay and Chanda suffer.
There a subjective correction factor.
On pure points, the list looks like this

Code:
                 Asia 2002         Last three tours
                                   
01 Kim           -- Gold Coast     QF  Zurich
                 SF Sydney         CH  Luxembourg
                 SF OZ             CH  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
02 Jenn          -- Gold Coast     16  Zurich
                 16 Sydney         QF  Linz
                 CH OZ             SF  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
03 Serena        -- Gold Coast     CH  Tokyo
                 SF Sydney         CH  Leipzig
                 -- OZ             FR  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
                 Pretty high up for a player with
                 only 3 matches Down Under last year!
                 
04 Venus         CH Gold Coast     FR  US Open
                 -- Sydney         16  Moscow
                 QF OZ             SF  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
                 Fall results were sub-par.
                 
05 Justine       FR Gold Coast     SF  Zurich
                 QF Sydney         CH  Linz
                 QF OZ             QF  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
06 Monica        -- Gold Coast     QF  US Open
                 -- Sydney         SF  Bahia
                 SF OZ             QF  L.A.
                 FR TPP            

07 Stevenson     32 Gold Coast     QF  Stuttgart
                 QF Sydney         16  Zurich
                 r1 OZ             FR  Linz
                 QF TPP    
                 
                 
08 Schnyder      16 Gold Coast     32  Stuttgart
                 QF Canberra       CH  Zurich
                 r1 OZ             16  L.A.
                 -- TPP
                 
                 This far down the lists, winning
                 a Tier I carries a lot of weight.
                 
09 Pistolesi     CH Aukland        16 Zurich
                 CH Canberra       QF Linz
                 r1 OZ             16 L.A.
                 -- TPP 
                 
                 Aukland and Canberra are small, but 
                 they're in the right hemisphrere.
                  
10 Maggie        -- Gold Coast     32  Zurich
                 32 Sydney         FR  Luxembourg
                 16 OZ             QF  Stuttgart
                 16 TPP   
                 
11 Farina Elia   QF Gold Coast     32  Zurich
                 16 Sydney         QF  Linz
                 32 OZ             16  L.A.
                 SF TPP    
                 
12 Daniela       16 Gold Coast     QF  Zurich
                 16 Sydney         SF  Linz
                 32 OZ             16  L.A.
                 -- TPP    
                             
13 Dementieva    -- Gold Coast     16  Zurich
                 32 Sydney         16  Linz
                 16 OZ             16  L.A.
                 16 TPP 
                 
14 Davenport     -- Gold Coast     QF  Stuttgart
                 -- Sydney         FR  Zurich
                 -- OZ             16  L.A.
                 -- TPP            
                 
15 Myskina       16 Gold Coast     16  Zurich
                 32 Sydney         16  Linz
                 64 OZ             16  L.A.
                 -- TPP    
                 
16 Rubin         -- Gold Coast     32  Zurich
                 -- Sydney         SF  Linz
                 -- OZ             16  L.A.
                 -- TPP
If you're wondering how Stevenson got so high up, take a look
Code:
                 Jan    Last 3
                 2002   2003          
                 ----   ----
1541 Kim          306   1235
1501 Venus        472   1029 
1350 Jenn        1009    341 
1252 Monica       709    543
1178 Serena       139   1039  
1090 JH2          456    594
 903 Stevenson    292    611

 512 Schnyder      52    462
 476 Hantuchova   186    290
 464 Pistolesi    237    227
 348 Dementieva   187    161
 239 Myskina       78    161


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I wish this how they seeded it

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post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 2002, 05:34 AM
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interesting method of calculating it. but i hate the word SHOULD.

IMO i cant see anyway serena doesnt deserve to be top seed. even though i understand your way of doing it.
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Pistolesi = Smashnova?
yes she changed her name to her husbands name
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serena behind jennifer (i know she didn't play at AO)

myskina behind dementieva

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LOL@Stevenson above Dementieva if you're going by last years events

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Come on Kim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 2002, 10:13 AM
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I can´t agree with this seeding system. You cannot put a player who didn´t advance past the 4th round of the last 3 GS´s she played ahead of the player that won the last 3!! I´m telling you rihgt now Serena is the no.1 at any slam until someone beats her! No matter what surface or what happened in the past!!
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This seeding is not how they should be, but how they did last year, which is never any indication of how they'll do this year anyway. Clijsters and Capriati above the Williams sisters? Smashnova #8 and Stevenson #12? This is too funny
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aww i'd love to see schnyder up at 7 & pistolesi at 8....
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I have to agree with Crow and Experiment. Remember after Capriati won AUz Open everybody said she was the best on tour? I don´t either!! A new year is: new ball game, new chances. Do you really think that if the Championship had GS-status Kimmie would have won?! Don´t think so!! Serena didn´t play for like 2 months, didn´t practice and see how close she came of winning. don´t you think that knowing she can complete her Serena slam, she will let anybody beat her?! Nonononononono!!!
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