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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

She could be like Oudin, with the media hype weighing heavily on her & other players wanting to beat her so bad She def played well against an injured Serena, visit Serena's Twitter account, check the photo she posted of the ankle, then you will indeed know it hampered her greatly
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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

That forehand of hers deserves all the hype it is getting.

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That forehand of hers deserves all the hype it is getting.
Even the forehand hasn't reached the Rubin-level yet!

So still million miles away from a peak Serena Williams!
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Even the forehand hasn't reached the Rubin-level yet!

So still million miles away from a peak Serena Williams!
Like 100% of all players that have ever played the game.

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

We can compare her to other Semifinalists of a Slam (only one-time SF as best result).

So compared to Wickmayer, Pironkova, Cibulkova or Lisicki she is probably to first (or even the only one?) to repeat that in future.

I acually realised that Hantuchova belongs to that category as well. (And good old Patty as well)

Stephens has a lot of potential, she is good in offense AND defense and that means a lot.

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

I actually think if Madison Keys had Sloane's draw, the results might have been the same.
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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

I understand the hype but I like Hampton's game alot more.

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American tennis fans, and especially American media are desperate for something to talk about re: the future, because once Serena goes, it's going to be a desert. IMHO Keys has more potential, but neither really looks like a worldbeater so far. Stephens was highly fortunate to play a hobbled Serena, but a couple hundred other players could have also wiped Williams out that day with her back in that condition, so I don't think a whole lot can be gleaned from Sloane's run to the SF here. She's likeable, has a solid game, has potential, but that describes a lot of players in the 10-50 range in the rankings, IMHO.
Exactly. There's nothing spectacular about her game other than a flat forehand which isn't as consistent or as spectacular a weapon as I've seen with other lower ranked players. But she's a solid player with a decent serve and the ability to play consistent pushing tennis. She won't flop like Oudin but her breakthrough is more flukeish than anything.

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We can compare her to other Semifinalists of a Slam (only one-time SF as best result).

So compared to Wickmayer, Pironkova, Cibulkova or Lisicki she is probably to first (or even the only one?) to repeat that in future.

I acually realised that Hantuchova belongs to that category as well. (And good old Patty as well)

Stephens has a lot of potential, she is good in offense AND defense and that means a lot.
I'd peg Lisicki to repeat first unless Sloane gets another lucky draw.
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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

It's like people have selective memory. Sloane has been touted as the Next Big Thing for the past several years, and she beat Serena. Of course there is hype. It doesn't mean that she was going to win the title or what not but she is a great prospect. To act like this is a Oudin type of situation is ridiculous. Oudin's run came out of nowhere without any justification. Only an idiot would think she would matter to much: she's too small and doesn't really have a great weapon. She was never going to get anywhere.
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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

Well, she actually may have a good career one day, given the fact it's not like other girls her age seem to be much better

Two things.

1. Yes, the semi was a fluke, and it's not like from now on she will be in every slam semi. I mean, even Fabiola Zuluaga made AO semi with some luck, in the times when many good players were around.

2. It may be a good boost for her (if it doesn't block her, that is). I mean, look at Janowicz from the ATP, he was in top 3 of juniors, but struggled to make an impact on tour. Then suddenly *bam* final in Paris - it did help him top players had World Tour Finals in sight and probably weren't 100%, but a final is a final. Now, at AO, he finally had ATP game, and not the challenger game that he had before. OK, he lost to Almagro, but after a fight. He is not at Almagro (who was a few balls away from SF) level yet, but there's a huge gap of playing your everyday matches against guys 70-150 ATP and playing the top 15 of the sudden. So, Stephens may not be ready to beat the top 5 yet, but regular wins against top 20 players are possible, and this means a good rank boost.

She may also follow Oudin's path, which I don't wish her.

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

she got to the semis by dumb luck mostly, she would never have beaten serena had she not been injured and there's a good chance she would have lost against robson if she wasn't injured. Robson's run at the US open last year was more impressive, especially considering Na Li is in the final here and robson BEAT her at the US open, and unlike serena here, Na Li was NOT injured.

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No her BH is very poor and she isn't as aggressive as she should be with FH. Maybe she'll learn to balance offense with defense with experience, but right now the hype doesn't look warranted at all.

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

Let's see if she doesn't become another victim of the "Believe" efect

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

In this case it really revolves around the fact that she beat Serena. It doesn't matter that Serena was nowhere near the real Serena that we all know is the best when she's 95% or so.

I think that it was Shaq who tweeted Sloane something to the effect that when you beat a champion (Serena) you become a champion.

Well, not exactly Shaq. In tennis you become a champion by winning championships. Having a big win in the quarters (I personally would be more impressed with winning over a healthy Serena, but that's just me) and losing in the semis does not make you a champion.

And I say that in the hopes that Sloane and Madison and any other young American can become champions because once Serena is gone, that's all she wrote for American tennis for the foreseeable future.

But let's not make champions of players who have not yet won a championship.

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Re: Do you get the hype about Stephens?

Let's be honest, the pain Serena was clearly in and the extent of injuries which later became apparent more than warranted withdrawal.

Of course she didn't because she's a champion, that and the fact she continue playing was because she knew she still stood a good chance of beating Sloane, which doesn't really say much about Sloane's game.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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