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Sloane, Timea and Madison do it for me.
Rest may go back into the shadow of irrelevancy and a suck-ass behavior.

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Actually it should be Babos Tímea, because Huangarian (ethnic Magyar) names follow the Eastern order (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.), in which the family name is ahead of the given name, just like Zheng Saisai. So you're using different orders on same type of names here.
I was aware of Hungarian names typically using the family name first, but as far as I can tell, this rule is not adhered to it in sports; that is, I have never seen a Hungarian sportsperson whose name has been used in the proper Hungarian order. It's the same with Japanese names -- Japan uses the family name first, but the order of first/last name seems to be more commonplace in sports. I have, however, seen the proper name order used for Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean players.

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This looks familiar.
I came across your old iWatch with this idea in mind and pretty much copied the format. I only wanted my thread to objectively reflect the rankings though, since I am just terrible at actually predicting which youngsters will do well (I told someone a while ago that Hercog would win RG...).
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I was aware of Hungarian names typically using the family name first, but as far as I can tell, this rule is not adhered to it in sports; that is, I have never seen a Hungarian sportsperson whose name has been used in the proper Hungarian order. It's the same with Japanese names -- Japan uses the family name first, but the order of first/last name seems to be more commonplace in sports. I have, however, seen the proper name order used for Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean players.

I agree with you, more Chinese people introduce ourselves to Westerners in the Eastern order, but maybe Japanese don't do the same. I can't impose the way Westerners call us, coz they might not know. But some Chinese TFers here still calling Na Li or Jie Zheng really piss me off. A quarter of world's population use this custom, but I feel it's not respected enough, even by some of ourselves. In contrast, Western names have never been translated into Chinese in a reversed order (family name ahead of given name) since 1930s.

As to Hungarians, the situation is different. Magyars have moved from the East to Europe for more than 1000 years, and have been mostly Westernized, I guess they already call themselves in the Western way quite often.


Btw, about Zheng Saisai. She shares the same surname with Zheng Jie, but that actually comes from Saisai's mother not father. Her father is ethnic Tibetan and Tibetan people don't have family names, so she took her mother's. And she also has a Tibetan name "索典卓玛", which I don't know how to write in latin letters.


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Updated for this week. Ranking movement since last week is shown in brackets; graduations are not accounted for in said movement, only whether a player moved above or below another teenager.
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Re: WTA 19/U Watch (Current Teen Queen: Sloane Stephens) | Updated 4 Feb; bye MLDB!

Sloane is graduating soon

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I understand how people can say Sloane has no potential, when you clearly see she's playing better than girls her age. Robsom is the only one in her generation that is in the Top 50.
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How about including (more) best 16- 15 and 14 year olds for example? It's interesting to track, for example, Ana Konjuh's improvement in such a thread like this.
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How about including (more) best 16- 15 and 14 year olds for example? It's interesting to track, for example, Ana Konjuh's improvement in such a thread like this.
This, maybe just include the top 5 juniors? I mean Ana Konjuh has been unbeaten for a few months already right?
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How about including (more) best 16- 15 and 14 year olds for example? It's interesting to track, for example, Ana Konjuh's improvement in such a thread like this.
Sounds good to me, I'll add the top five 16-year-olds, 15-year-olds and 14-year-olds ranked outside of the top 50 teenagers.

EDIT: Will make it the top ten 16-year-olds instead. Current Top 10 juniors are highlighted in purple.

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Shulin Xu should be on the ranking

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