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i'd like to know who is according to you.
Lisicki, Cibulkova, Kanepi.
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Lisicki, Cibulkova, Kanepi.
Of the current players, these three definitely come before Zheng.
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Schiavone had this honour for soooo long pre-2010

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She would have made it if it weren't for her "serve".

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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

I think when you're comparing peak Zheng against other people she may not be. Against the peaks of people like Cibulkova, ALG, Kanepi, Lisicki she would be overpowered but the thing about Zheng is that she plays at a more consistent level than those players who are/were more prone to huge fluctuations in form.

I'd say players like Farina Elia, Dechy, and Shaughnessy are more along Zheng's path but it's hard to say she's "best" because results don't always give a concrete example of talent, there are a lot of variables. Is reaching 2 Grand Slam SF years apart a better indicator of talent than a longer stretch of consistent results like the 3 mentioned previously. There's not really a good answer.
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Difficult thing to judge, but Jie has to be up there for consideration. Golovin, Kanepi, maybe Lisicki and Cibulkova... Zheng is definitely in the bracket with her repeated comebacks and two SF's.

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There are plenty of players with more raw talent than Jie, but that's not what career bests are about.

I think two GS semifinals is hard to argue against when answering this question. I mean, 2 GS SFs is not that much fewer than many of the girls who had top 5 peaks, let alone top 10, which is what we are talking about.

How many GS SFs did Myskina make for example? Or players like Suarez, Sugiyama, Hantuchova, Kerber, Chakvetadze, etc, who all have career highs much higher than Jie? When considering real top ten players' careers bests Jie doesn't seem out of place.

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Of the current players, these three definitely come before Zheng.
Oh and Kirilenko too.
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No, Meghann Shaughnessy, who peaked at number 11, was WAY better, with several victories against Venus, who was playing pretty well.

I think two Slam SFs and Jie's wins are better than anything Shaughnessy ever did. I'd say Jie or Cibulkova.
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The answer should be Paola Suarez because she never played as a Top 10 player


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zheng zie is overrated, she was slaughtered by laura robson and gaungzhou last year.
Your Laura Robson is really overrated by many people and media.
Poor Watson, won a title and still being ignored
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I know, but why hasn't this thread been started when she reached the Semis then?
And this particular case emerged because of her beating Mugsur, not reaching Slam SF.

Besides, the answer for the OP questions is rather not in my opinion.
There's been a handfull of players that I'd put above Jie that didn't enter the top10 either.
Jie might not be the best player to have NOT made the Top 10.
But I am sure Aga is the worst among those who has highest ranking no.2
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zheng zie is overrated, she was slaughtered by laura robson and gaungzhou last year.
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