Re: Is there a case for considering Seles to be greater than Serena?
The other funny thing is even just in peak play one could argue all of Graf over Serena, Serena over Seles, and Seles over Graf if they want to. First off even using the most simplistic of logic, if of the 3 major surfaces one says Seles at her best is over Graf on clay and hard courts based on the early 90s, and one argued Serena over Seles on both grass and hard courts, one could still argue Graf over both Serena on clay (Seles above Serena on clay too so no conflict there) and grass (Graf way over Seles on grass too, so no conflict there). One could imagine a hypothetical Serena has the edge over Seles peak to peak at 3 of 4 slams, Seles over Graf at 3 of 4, and Graf over Serena at 2 of 4 but having the big edge of playing more regularly. That is even before considering the totally different matchups all 3 present vs either.
For the record in terms of just peak play I would rate them Serena over Graf over Seles if had to pick even if pure stats (W-L, slam domination, and other stats in their best years) would say Graf way ahead of the other two, and Seles a bit over Serena. Grafs peak years for me would be 88, 89, 95, and 96, so how she compared vs Seles in the early 90s would be meaningless to me when comparing them peak to peak, and thus would even be meaningless to the 3 way comparision hypothetical I went by for those who believe Seles was better than peak Graf just based on the early 90s. Graf in 89 and 95 for instance lost 2 matches, and in 91 for instance lost about 8 matches, and none of those to Seles, so it doesnt take an einstein to see the difference. In overall greatness my personal ranking would be just like the consensus Graf then Serena then Seles, but I would have Serena much closer to Graf than many people would, and she probably is closer to passing her in my mind than she is in many peoples.
Last edited by powerpuff27; Dec 27th, 2012 at 07:06 PM.