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Chris Evert as Commentator: Genius or Total Witch-on-Wheels?

... And I love me some Chrissie -- people who do not actually PLAY tennis think the greats from "wood racket days" were pushers or backboards.

Oh no honey. In Evert's case, she was a devastatingly belligerent, take-control-and-humiliate-your-opponent demon who actually had immense genius and power (in her day) to thwart the Billie Jeans and Margaret Courts and Martinas, etc.

But I also think she might be an enormous bi--t*

As a commentator, she has been giving her opinions since 1990, and let us face it: if anybody can tell you, by observing, how a high-stakes point is being constructed or ended, Evert is UNBELIEVABLY incisive.

Sure.

But, just as often as she makes stunning, informative comment about the Ydeep, dark heart of a match, or a point ... She will then say something completely catty, wicked, witchy, or just plain stupid.

What gives? She (Being the Queen of Genius Tennis) gives you deep excellence and, a minute later, she makes you wonder if she is not a tawdry gum-chewing high school cheerleader.

Has anyone else sensed this Evert Conundrum (and I worship the woman as a genius) ...
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Genius, even though she has some moments
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Re: Chris Evert as Commentator: Genius or Total Witch-on-Wheels?

Wow ... Yes, thank you for input. So many seem to dismiss her as a commentator, but I believe in "let's look at the actual evidence" and, based on that, she's amazing.

For example, I watched the NBC coverage of Graf vs. Seles @ the French Open 1990 (!) and Chrissie went front WICKED good comments ... To catty bits. It was fascinating and revealing.

You clearly got the sense: nobody else on earth except HER could tell you what a player is trying to do at a certain juncture, but then her prejudices would come into it (because she was relatively new to the "booth" in 1990).

In a sense it is interesting because one can infer from Evert so much about the real "killer" champions, because she herself was just a merciless killer. On court she was ... Just dread and destruction across the net. So clinical in her ability to ruin or often outright humiliate an opponent.

Well, that is why someone can actually get 18 Slam titles (13 consecutive years as a Slam winner -- probably the most amazing stat in sport ... Jack Nicklaus said Evert's 13 straight years winning at least one major was the most potent stat in sports, and not faint praise, from him) and she does have the best Open Era winning percentage: 90% of her matches.

But her skills as a commentator have developed. I liked her more in the early days ... When she wasn't politically correct. But in listening to the commentary, one could also see that she was grumpy and difficult.

But, if you are Chris Evert, you have really earned the right to be a bit touchy.

I like the Mary Carillo type that can analyze the game and produce witticisms and Bon mots ... But Carillo never in a million years knew what it was like to be fighting, down a break, for a Slam title. Certainly not regularly.

Evert gives absolute commentary gems ... But then she fluctuates to silliness.

It's quite remarkable to behold, but I think she is the reason that women's tennis exists.

Billie Jean (and a few pals) made political inroads for the women's game, but the whole tour itself? The money and the endorsements and the clothes and the TV deals?

You can hang all of that on one person and one person only -- Chris Evert.

Though she is sometimes a bewildering commentator, she is the total and absolute reason the girls can make big $$$.

And she was also in the running for GOAT, along with Steffi and Martina, for the Open Era.

What a woman.
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Someone's kissing Chrissy's ass.


She was a legend in tennis- as a player

That's it. She's not a legend in commentating she never was never will be. She's mediocre at best.


She never played these players , often times she commentates and the matches u can clearly tell she barely knows who one of the opponents even is, how to correctly say there name, what there game is about ect ect... Basic stuff you should know really. And that's just for starters.

So no, I don't think she's the best or one of the best, she's ok. The only reason she's there is because of her name, not her ability. That's for sure

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Personality is important true, but u have to be able to have the facts as well u can't just show up with your coffee and go " who the fuck am I commentating on? Who? Who's that girl again? Oh gee, another Russian I have no clue who it is... It isn't sharapova, shit."


And u know every has done this...

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-Total witch on wheels.

-Virtually unprepared for most the majors she comments on.

-Rarely knows any players games outside of Serena, Venus, Masha, and maybe Vika (now that she's #1 and cause she played in Florida for a while), and Petra--caused she's been forced to see her play in so many Majors the past two years. However, even when she is given research, it's usually wrong anyway, and Chris is too far removed from the game to know better or correct it.

-Makes, crazy statements about players, based off of one match she sees.

-And you can tell by listening to her, she's not even sure what she's saying.

-Gives good insight on her previous experiences, and even relating them to current players. And she should leave it there.

-Otherwise, she's a dismal tennis commentator. And ESPN should have fired her after her first year, unless they retain her as "entertainment", sorta like they do with Pam Shriver.
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she is the total and absolute reason the girls can make big $$$.
What a woman.
Really? She's the main reason that the girls can make the big money? Ever heard of Billie Jean King?

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Really? She's the main reason that the girls can make the big money? Ever heard of Billie Jean King?
Yesss!!!! BJK & Venus in their quest for equal prize $$

I've watched countless matches where she could hardly pronounce names of the Spaniards & East Europeans! Her commentary seems to always favor the big viewer draw cards, big gamers, big $$ makers ala SERENA, MARIA, & VENUS, occasionally Wozniacki (but often critical of her game during matches).
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Pretty much sums it up for me as well.
Bitch can't even remain impartial long enough to commentate on the most basic level most times.
But she's been discussed before, and at length, so I won't bother with revisiting her in all of her glorious skankiness.

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She is good. Objective and knowledgeable. Million times better than Mary Joe who openly worships mindless ballbashers and blatantly belittles anybody more sophisticated.
Actually Mary Joe is even more annoying than that - she picks the winner even before the match actually starts, and then is exclusively commenting that "winner" constantly ignoring and belittling the other player, even when her favorite is obviously losing.
I would even understand her logic if she was using the current ranking in picking that "winner", but the problem is that she is off by a factor of several years. She doesn't realize that for example Jankovic or Ivanovic are players of the distant past, for her they are still favorites against the new, and currently much better, generation of players. It seems she needs three years of the player being on the top to actually start giving them more attention.



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She overall does a decent job.

She does not always know what she is talking about, however.
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She's entertaining, sometimes inadvertently.

Anyway, she can be both, and often is.

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-Total witch on wheels.

-Virtually unprepared for most the majors she comments on.

-Rarely knows any players games outside of Serena, Venus, Masha, and maybe Vika (now that she's #1 and cause she played in Florida for a while), and Petra--caused she's been forced to see her play in so many Majors the past two years. However, even when she is given research, it's usually wrong anyway, and Chris is too far removed from the game to know better or correct it.

-Makes, crazy statements about players, based off of one match she sees.

-And you can tell by listening to her, she's not even sure what she's saying.

-Gives good insight on her previous experiences, and even relating them to current players. And she should leave it there.

-Otherwise, she's a dismal tennis commentator. And ESPN should have fired her after her first year, unless they retain her as "entertainment", sorta like they do with Pam Shriver.
All of this.

Nah, all she knows is Serena, Venus and Pova. She confused Vika and Wozniacki saying that Vika ended 2011 as a slamless #1.

She said Makarova could win a slam.

She said Stosur's best shot is her BH.

I rest my case.

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