Now this is cute. You go and try to read me and then post this "illogical" shit. If you take away all the matches after Wimby and YEC 04 (sans AO 05) in which Maria was a "mental mess" her H2H with Serena would be 2-2. Take a fucking seat, seriously.
I figured Masha fans were just like this. Kinda predictable.
But it is bullshit excuses. If we could just not count matches where players were a "mental mess" everyone who have a winning H2H. New flash fucking idiot, tennis is more a mental sport than a physical sport. So no, we can't look over when a player was a mental mess because they did it playing another player and for whatever reason caused them to be beaten, be it from being intimidated, not being able to figure how to beat there opponent, being nervous, the list can go on. In sum any of the reasons for a player to be a "mental mess" is caused in some way by the opponent, even if is the opponent taking advantage of this mental laps a player is having. It does take much for momentum to turn. So every match is included, always. Unless of course no one can deter Maria's mental capabilities and she just beats herself all the time, forgive me for not realizing her greatness.
Maria will be a "mental mess" again playing Vika and will be pwned, but of course we'll over look that until Maria beats Vika on clay once.
Not you trying me with this stale-ass logic.
I see you stay taking my arguments out of context to suit your own purposes. The fact that you're comparing Azarenka to Serena in the level that they can cause Maria to be a mess is sheer desperation.
I have not and will not say that you should discount the matches from the h2h. But you and the other Vika stans STAYED trying us by calling Maria stans "defensive, delusional and in denial" as if it's a given that Azarenka will win the h2h next year?
Maria was a mess and couldn't deal with Azarenka in AO and IW. But it's fair to discount those matches WHEN you're trying to predict who will win the h2h next year since now the problem isn't mental for Maria, it's just a case of she loses when she starts playing badly/runs out of gas (like in USO and Beijing).
BASED on that, there is no reason why you basic ass Vika stans should believe that she will be beaten constantly next year.
Is it that hard for you to understand.
Originally Posted by Break My Rapture
Why was Maria a mental mess in those matches? She was high on confidence after avenging her Wimbledon final loss to Kvitova in the AO semis, albeit the quality of play wasn't very outstanding in that match. She fought through tough battles against Lisicki and Kerber (the scoreline defies the truth in the latter) so mentally she was in a confident state of mind and not nearing exhaustion because those matches weren't that close eventually. Same situation in IW, where she only had to fight through her match against Kirilenko and didn't even have to finish off Ivanovic in the semis. If anything, it was Maria's TENNIS that wasn't up to par in the latter stages of those tournaments. At the AO she started the tournament off really well only to go off the boil after the Kerber match, afterwards raising her level against Makarova and eventually peaking in the first set against Kvitova. In IW Maria's tennis throughout the tournament wasn't that spectacular.
If you're going to try explaining, do it right. The only thing that hints at a mental messy state of mind in this match-up is the fact that Azarenka was the better player in both those matches and Maria had too much pressure on her to make something happen, which led to Maria squandering the chances she had in those matches.
You just answered your own question there.
Maria was a mental mess and her game at the beginning of 2012 wasn't as good as Azarenka's. If her game was better she might have been able to fight through, but for some reason the pressure was too much and her game wasn't there, but to say it was all down to her game given the scoreline is stupid.
But the thing is she improved since AO and IW while Vika has stayed stagnant (and you could say her serve has gotten worse). So it's fair to assume that Maria will make it competitive at least, no?
Their last few meetings this year showed this