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annual players vote for most fair player...

Who will be the next to winthe so called Karen Krantzcke Sportmanship Award? My guess is Ana or Aga... They both seem to be liked by other players :-)



Kim won it for the eighth time in 2012 ! Basically every time she played a full season since 2000 (plus 2009)

"The Karen Krantzcke Sportsmanship Award, recognizing professionalism, attitude and sense of fair play [...] voted for by the WTA players themselves."

What a nice goodbye for Kim! And especially nice, since it is voted by fellow players who must have the best insight!


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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

Rodionova or Putintseva, obviously...
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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

Petra

shes very generous in handing out top ten wins too.

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Rodionova or Putintseva, obviously...
WHAT!? Are you kidding me!! Those are the two nastiest players on the tour and they are NOT fair at all!
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shes very generous in handing out top ten wins too.
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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

No offense to Kim, but it's a joke that she's won this award 8 times. Not saying she's not pretty fair in general, but no more than a bunch of others, and although I suppose 2012 would count as a full season by her standards, they'd do well to specify a minimum of at least about 10 tournaments played to be eligible for this award. I mean, how hard can it be to be a good sport when you play so few matches? Give it to someone who was in the thick of the fray for a whole grueling season, and played fair throughout.

The problem, as Bobito pointed out on another thread, is that the award is determined by other players, which pretty much turns it into a locker-room popularity contest. For a real test of sportsmanship, you need to also ask the opinion of officials, ballkids, journalists and prominent ex-players. In that case I think the front runners would probably be Petra, Sam and Ana. Can't see Aga as a real contender tbh, given her bitter reaction to some her losses this year, particularly to Vika.
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WHAT!? Are you kidding me!! Those are the two nastiest players on the tour and they are NOT fair at all!
It's called sarcasm .
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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

Petra won in 2011 so I guess she has a chance. Ana also won once, in 2007.
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Petra she is so generous this season and only want to win team events
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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

99.9% of the players are fair. So it's a more or less a pointless exercise to single out just one when virtually everyone else behaves in the same manner. The problem is though that in tennis absolutely everything from a grunt to a disputed linecall, a 'come on', a fistpump, even the way you celebrate a victory - in short, everything that shows that tennis players are human beings instead of robots is immediately called 'unsportsmanlike.' I guess this is really the Mats Wilander behave-alike award.

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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

Caro is loved by most of the girls in the locker room.
Na Li is probably popular too. So is Sam. Too bad Kuznetsova is so irrelevant now or she also has a chance.
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99.9% of the players are fair. So it's a more or less a pointless exercise to single out just one when virtually everyone else behaves in the same manner. The problem is though that in tennis absolutely everything from a grunt to a disputed linecall, a 'come on', a fistpump, even the way you celebrate a victory - in short, everything that shows that tennis players are human beings instead of robots is immediately called 'unsportsmanlike.' I guess this is really the Mats Wilander behave-alike award.

I'll grant you that tennis is a pretty fair sport compared to most others, but I think you're simplifying things a tad here. True, not every fistpump, disputed line call or grunt is a sign of bad sportsmanship, but some are, and plenty of players engage in other forms of unsporting behaviour as well, on a fairly regular basis: strategic medical time-outs and bathroom breaks, snarling at ballkids, bitchy comments about officials and/or other players during pressers, etc.

There are also players - but very few - who show sportsmanship above and beyond the call of duty: spontaneously conceding disputed points to their opponent, thanking ball-kids for bringing a towel or a drink, being unfailingly gracious in pressers despite being continually baited by gutter journalists, etc. These are the only ones who should be contenders for the sportsmanship award, not the 60% or so (sorry, but 99.9% is an exaggeration) who fairly consistently refrain from doing what they shouldn't do in any case.

The problem that I think you've put your finger on is that most tennis fans - at least most who post on this forum - don't really see the difference, and confuse sportsmanship with their personal feelings towards a player. Consequently, they interpret every action of a hated player as a sign of bad sportsmanship, and every action of their faves as normal or even sporting. That's all the more reason why tennis needs a proper sportsmanship award, so that, maybe in time, people can learn to tell the difference. The rubber stamp that is the current award doesn't do the job.

If it ever gets to the stage where literally 99.9% of players would be contenders for such an award then we can start to worry about Mats Wilander behave-alike scenarios.

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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

It will be someone from the group: Ana Ivanovic, Caroline Wozniacki, Na Li, Agnieszka Radwanska, Samantha Stosur.
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Re: annual players vote for most fair player...

I bet they all go "oh no not this crap again... oh well, I'll just vote for Saint Kim as usual.."


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I'll grant you that tennis is a pretty fair sport compared to most others, but I think you're simplifying things a tad here. True, not every fistpump, disputed line call or grunt is a sign of bad sportsmanship, but some are, and plenty of players engage in other forms of unsporting behaviour as well, on a fairly regular basis: strategic medical time-outs and bathroom breaks, snarling at ballkids, bitchy comments about officials and/or other players during pressers, etc.
I did so on purpose because all too often people exaggerate the problem, so I figured to go in the other direction with my comment, which if forced to choose between the two is closer to the truth anyway in my opinion. I also think that there's a difference between having an attitude on the one hand and actual unsportsmanlike behavior on the other hand. IT IS a competition after all and I don't mind a bit of spice. Some of the things you mention are not even the fault of the players themselves but the powers that be of the WTA. The rules for medical time-outs and bathroom breaks should be much strickter than they are now, if they should even be allowed to begin with. But with the rules as they are I would also be tempted to take a long bathroom break in the hope of breaking my opponent's rhythm when I get my ass kicked at Wimbledon or the USO. I'd after all much prefer to win one of those than some sportsmanship award. Snarling at ballkids is a big no-no in my book. Bitchy comments about officials and other players are usually done in the heath of the moment after a tough loss. Some are better at biting their lip than others. If the WTA doesn't want any of that they shouldn't require that players immediately talk to the press following a loss.

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