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More interesting than the whole ATP thing is the other issue you`ve mentioned, how the WTA has actually become less accepting of lesbian players over time.

It's absurd, the western world has gotten a lot more accepting and yet the world's most important women's sport association seems to be backtracking even though some of their biggest champions have been gay.

For some reason, lesbian tennis players don't come out anymore, Mauresmo was pretty much the last notable one. Of course, it is technically possible that since then none of the players have been gay but given the normal percentage among women that's very, very unlikely. There have to be at least 3-4 lesbian players in the Top 50 but they obviously don't feel like their surroundings are accepting enough to be open about it.
Lesbian players coming out has never been common on the WTA.
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Because man's world can be very mean when it comes to sexuality. And obviously we are talking about serious money in tennis world, so... no one wants to lose it. But, it will change in 5-10 years. I expect first ATP player who admits he is gay to become actually a big star and even to become very attractive for sponsors.
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Re: Why do tennis fans accept lesbian tennis stars yet no one in ATP out of closet?

While in WTA they are out of the closet? List the countess out lesbians in the tour.
I don't see players in either tour coming out lately.
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Re: Why do tennis fans accept lesbian tennis stars yet no one in ATP out of closet?

The lockerroom is a very scary place already, so I imagine it'd be hell for someone out of the closet.
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While in WTA they are out of the closet? List the countess out lesbians in the tour.
I don't see players in either tour coming out lately.
There are none who are officially out as far as I know, it's all hearsay and shouldn't be part of this topic.
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Re: Why do tennis fans accept lesbian tennis stars yet no one in ATP out of closet?

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More interesting than the whole ATP thing is the other issue you`ve mentioned, how the WTA has actually become less accepting of lesbian players over time.
Do you talk actual things or just speaking out of your mind as usual?

And how is WTA's fault when someone like Hingis or Tipsarevic attacking Mauresmo? And what could/should WTA actually do? Announce "lesbian of the week" on their website?
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It's absurd, the western world has gotten a lot more accepting and yet the world's most important women's sport association seems to be backtracking even though some of their biggest champions have been gay.
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For some reason, lesbian tennis players don't come out anymore, Mauresmo was pretty much the last notable one. Of course, it is technically possible that since then none of the players have been gay but given the normal percentage among women that's very, very unlikely. There have to be at least 3-4 lesbian players in the Top 50 but they obviously don't feel like their surroundings are accepting enough to be open about it.
Bring the facts before, dont just throw around names.

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Bring the facts before, dont just throw around names.
I didn't mention a single name, do you really need to poison every single topic with your petty attacks against me?
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There are none who are officially out as far as I know, it's all hearsay and shouldn't be part of this topic.
I know. I said that to show there actually aren't any.
That's why I don't see why some people in this thread assume tennis fans accept lesbian players significantly more than ATP gay ones.
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It's because straight women generally are more accepting than straight men are of gay people. The men's locker room would be much more hostile to a gay man than the women's locker room would be/is to a lesbian. Plus, I do think there probably are more lesbians on the tennis tour in general than there are gay men.
All this, especially first sentence. Really big part of tennis audience is middle-aged men, probably least accepting part of demography (not counting older ppl).

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I didn't mention a single name, do you really need to poison every single topic with your petty attacks against me?
Then why mention Mauresmo and using her as the "last known" example?

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Because she's the last major player that is known to a broad sport audience that has come out, it's a simple fact.
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Simple, because in our sexist world lesbians = hot, gay males = disgusting

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Because she's the last major player that is known to a broad sport audience that has come out, it's a simple fact.
So the only ones who count are slam champions?

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So the only ones who count are slam champions?
No but those obviously have more to lose in terms of endorsements etc. An out player ranked #272 will hardly cause any media attention.

Could you try any harder to put words in my mouth?
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No but those obviously have more to lose in terms of endorsements etc. An out player ranked #272 will hardly cause any media attention.

Could you try any harder to put words in my mouth?
So the players just greedy?

really sorry, it was in your mouth already.

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