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We'll never see Peak vs Peak but we have Current vs Current and right now, Current Vika kicks the fucking shit out of Martha whenever she pleases.
But peak vs peak is being discussed here so .

Peak Maria would destroy peak Vika. .
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Who is Vika ?
obviously Maria Is Better
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

if 2012 Vika is peak Vika, and peak Maria is 2008 Maria (or whatever period she was best in) I'll go with Maria. But who knows, Vika might be serving bombs next year (unlikely, but it's the future, so no one knows) and be super aggressive and hit winners everywhere. Or Maria finds a way to be better. Let's wait till they are a bit older than 23 and 25 to ask this question


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Sharapova. Because she is clearly NOT as good as she six years ago, and she's still competitive with Azarenka now.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Again, we don't even know what peak Vika actually is... Sharapova's peak is obviously behind her (as her own stans admit) while Vika's hasn't even been there.

So Sharapova being still competitive with her now means nothing. Especially as the term competitive could be argued, she has received some hefty beatdowns by Vika this year.
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I don´t think Maria has much potential left to improve her game, but Vika does.

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player whose main weapon is movement + consistency can't improve significantly... She is already making just a few UE and is moving better than her main rivals , but it doesn't work when she is just outhitted, overpowered and forced to pushing...

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player whose main weapon is movement + consistency can't improve significantly...
Coach of the year disagrees
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So what ? We'll just have to wait and see. Vika's movement will deteriorate with time just like it happened with many players like her she will have to win matches quickly, add big weapons to her game and not using that grinding style over the years.
Beside that grinding style seems useless when big hitters are on, she can't do much and can be easily hit off the court.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

We have had a thread on this, with much the same mixture of some thoughtful some inflammatory comments.

Anyhow. Vika is 23, 2012 has been her peak season thus far but in terms of pure level isn't as good as 06/early 08 Martha. However she has improved each season, and until she goes backwards then we're still to presume her peak could be in the next couple of years and we haven't seen the best of her.

A lot of me feels sorry for Maria, because there are so many things that are better about her game now than 4 or 5 years ago, movement, point construction etc that if only she hadn't got the shoulder issue and a shadow of her former serve then her peak could have been around now, she's still only 25 after all, at least another 2 or 3 years of "young" tennis left in her. As it is, i think she'll never get back to that 08 level because she just doesn't trust her all round game the same as she used to.

As it stands current Vika has a small edge over current Maria, and they'll split victories about 70/30 in Vikas favour presuming they play mostly on hard.

Peak vs Peak is Maria quite comfortably at this stage, and in my opinion i don't think we'll ever see a better Vika than this year, but it's still unknown.

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Again, we don't even know what peak Vika actually is... Sharapova's peak is obviously behind her (as her own stans admit) while Vika's hasn't even been there.

So Sharapova being still competitive with her now means nothing. Especially as the term competitive could be argued, she has received some hefty beatdowns by Vika this year.
Who? Quite a lot of us think Maria's peak could potentially be in the next 1 or 2 years

If you look at Maria's upwards trajectory since the surgery, it's probably been even more dramatic than Vika's (Maria's game had bigger improvements in 2012 compared to 2011 than Vika's did, I would say). So there's really no evidence atall that Vika is going to constantly improve from hereon while Maria is going to slide. Don't forget Azarenka is only 2 years younger than Maria, although admittedly it's easy to forget that seeing as Maria started playing spectacularly at a far earlier age than Vika did.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Maria, quite clearly.
There's a chance Vika could show something even better in the future though, something I personally doubt but it's more likely it's her peak that we haven't seen yet rather than Maria's.
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