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View Poll Results: Peak Hingis vs Peak Radwanska
Hingis on all surfaces 91 84.26%
Radwanska on all surfaces 9 8.33%
Hingis on slow , Radwanska on fast surfaces 6 5.56%
Hingis on grass and clay , Radwanska on hardcourts 2 1.85%
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Re: Peak Hingis vs Peak Radwanska

Hingis lost to 19 y. o. Aga as no 7 in the world
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Hingis lost to 19 y. o. Aga as no 7 in the world
First of all, Aga was 18. Second of all, ranking is not always an indication of form.
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both are basically the same player
Thanks for this info, I didn't know that Miss Radwanska has 17 wins over the Williams sisters and 4 years as the world #1.
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Totally offensive to Hingis.
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Re: Peak Hingis vs Peak Radwanska

Leave Martine alone but seriously I'm a VERY BIG fan of Aga and even bigger of Hingis (two my faves ever) but this shouldn't be a question. I think some poeple haven't seen Martina playing her best: that was stunning, amazing , outstanding and just out of this world. Some of the shots she could play were . Aga is great but Martina does everything better when plaiyng peak. We could argue only about serve: well imo Hingis when at her best has had better placement, Aga's is faster but that doesn't mean more effective. The only thing Aga imo is slightly better is defense, but Hingis when reached a shot in the last moment could do much more with the ball, had amazing lobs, better than Aga's so it's equal for me. Answering the poll: Hingis in 2 sets on hardcourts and clay, on grass Hingis in 3 or Radwanska in 3.
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I agree with posters that evaluating "peak" of an active player vs. "peak" of a player that is done with her tennis career is pointless. An active player may (or may not) still elevate their game. This adds to the complexity to an evaluation of players that played in different periods. It just makes no sense. Now when we speak about someone like Martina who was unique in her time with what she could do, it makes it even harder since she was the first and only one playing certain style. Someone later with such style will be rarely considered better just because the style is no longer new. It will be mostly Agnieszka's fans who see something in her that others may not; potential that may allow her to become great which also may or may not happen. All I can say that I am hopeful and excited for the possibility that Agnieszka will develop further and surprise even her most devoted fans. This anticipation makes being player's fan enjoyable and trolls like the OP will continue to try hard to spoil that experience for the fans. Such is TF and not only. For now I will say both of them are great in their own right.

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The belief that man is an irresolute creature pulled this way and that by two forces of equal strength, alternately winning and losing the battle for his soul; the conviction that human life is nothing more than an uncertain struggle between heaven and hell; the faith in two opposed entities, Satan and Christ - all this was bound to engender those internal discords in which the mind, excited by the incessant fighting, stimulated as it were by the constant promises and threats, ends up by giving in and prostitutes itself to whichever of the two combatants has been more obstinate in its pursuit. Life isn't black and white, it's gold.
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Hingis lost to 19 y. o. Aga as no 7 in the world
She also lost to Sania Mirza ranked number 8 in the world. Right after beating her 6-1 6-0 the previous week.

The belief that man is an irresolute creature pulled this way and that by two forces of equal strength, alternately winning and losing the battle for his soul; the conviction that human life is nothing more than an uncertain struggle between heaven and hell; the faith in two opposed entities, Satan and Christ - all this was bound to engender those internal discords in which the mind, excited by the incessant fighting, stimulated as it were by the constant promises and threats, ends up by giving in and prostitutes itself to whichever of the two combatants has been more obstinate in its pursuit. Life isn't black and white, it's gold.

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She also lost to Sania Mirza ranked number 8 in the world. Right after beating her 6-1 6-0 the previous week.
Given that Mirza is an incredibly streaky one dimensional hit or miss ball basher, I dont see how this is supposed to make a point on anything. Against Hingis who she could never rally with (even old Hingis) I am sure she just went for winners on the 1st or 2nd ball of each point, and by the score it is obvious what happened, one day they all fell out, another day was one of her rare days most of them fell in and she won.

That said on the thread title Hingis easily. Radwanska actually looks very underpowered compared to Hingis, Hingis could even play like a ball basher and beat Radwanska that way if she wished. Also while Radwanska might be almost as smart and play with almost as much guile, her placements and directional control, and ability to take the ball early and time it so well, is nowhere near the same level.
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Nice try Gurdians to take attention from all those peak threads, which Martha was losing.
Your fave still remains hairy and the lesser one in all those polls she's lost lately.

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Nice try Gurdians to take attention from all those peak threads, which Martha was losing.
Your fave still remains hairy and the lesser one in all those polls she's lost lately.
She is even losing my peak thread to Shirley Fry, that must have been the last straw for Mashatards.
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She is even losing my peak thread to Shirley Fry, that must have been the last straw for Mashatards.
you are treating your threads too seriously , but it's not less a joke than this where Serena is losing to Harkleroad

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Re: Peak Hingis vs Peak Radwanska

Hingis, not to take away her tennis abilities, was really lucky to be born so early. If you look whom she beat in these slams she won, you can say she was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. Even the best opponent - Venus Williams - just played her first slam final and a few weeks earlier was crashing out of Wimbledon R1 to Magdalena Grzybowska of all people. Amelie Mauresmo was a player from nowhere. Conchita Martinez was a puff baller. I guess only wins over Mary Pierce and Jana Novotna (who was not a ballbasher anyway) are good wins.

She couldn't beat serious ball smackers like Davenport or Capriati in the slam finals.

She built fame and winning records on defeating the Testuds, Tauziats, Sanchez-Vicarios and Kournikovas of this world. Hingis legend is one of the things I never got, and I was already an avid tennis fan in her times.

Although, in her last events before she got caught on drugging, she lost twice to Patty Schnyder and once to Radwanska, so rather not physical players, tennis changed a lot since peak Hingis years. Serena, Sharapova, Azarenka, Kvitova, Lisicki, Petkovic, Na Li but also Stosur, to some extend Kerber are hard hitters, some of them are also great in defense (Vika, Kerber, lately Serena) matches against them are very physically draining. We don't know if Hingis had all of her slams (mind she got them quite early, before Davenport and Capriati started trashing her in the finals) if she had to start career nowadays.

Now back on topic, peak Aga has troubles even with non-peak Cetkovska who has the similar style of playing, so Hingis would be my fave here.

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