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View Poll Results: Peak Graf vs Peak Seles
Graf wins on all surfaces 10 35.71%
Seles wins on all surfaces including even grass (lol) 3 10.71%
Seles wins on all surfaces except grass 9 32.14%
Graf wins on all surfaces except rebound ace 3 10.71%
Seles wins on rebound ace and clay, Graf on the others 3 10.71%
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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 17th, 2012, 04:33 AM Thread Starter
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Peak Graf vs peak Seles

Who would you favor in this matchup. By that I mean the Graf of 88-89 or 95-96 vs the Seles of 91-92. I would favor Graf on grass, fast hard courts, and indoors. Would favor Seles on rebound ace. Not sure who I would favor on clay. Overall I would give Graf more of an edge than Seles.
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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

I do think the Graf of the 94 Australian Open would beat any version of Seles on rebound ace, but I dont believe 1 tournament or 1 match is not enough to go by peak on. It has to be produced at more than one event to count as a true peak IMHO.
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i'm sure Seles would have won the Wimbledon final and achieved Grand Slam but that was the time when treats begun to happen

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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

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i'm sure Seles would have won the Wimbledon final and achieved Grand Slam but that was the time when treats begun to happen
Treats, what are you talkin about? Do you mean that is when Monica started like treats like candy and chocolate? I thought that was sometime in 1994, atleast that is what her autobiography indicated. Their only Wimbledon final was 1992, long before that.
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This won't end well.

Peak Seles.


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This won't end well.

Peak Seles.
I noticed you voted for peak Seles even on grass. I always love to corner those rare ones who go for the aforementioned lol options of my polls.
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I noticed you voted for peak Seles even on grass. I always love to corner those rare ones who go for the aforementioned lol options of my polls.
Oh I thought it said "excluding grass"

Yeah no I meant to vote for Seles on everything but grass.

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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

Here are how their stats compare peak to peak:

Seles peak years 1991-1992. Won 6 of 8 slams. I would note she skipped a slam except the slam she skipped is one she never won which makes that pretty much moot. Match record of 74-6 in 1991 and 70-5 in 1992. 10 titles in each year.

Graf peak years 1988, 1989, 1995, 1996. Won 13 of 14 slams played. Match records of 72-3, 86-2, 47-2, 54-4. 11 tournament titles in 1988, 14 tournament titles in 1989, 9 tournament titles in 1995, and 7 tournament titles in 1996.

Statistically anyway Graf has Seles beat by a huge margin peak to peak. Seles never matched Graf's level of dominance in her peak years. For that reason mainly I give the edge to peak Graf.
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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

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seles potential achievements have been inflated and influenced by non-tennis events
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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

Seles would win in clay and rebound ace graf on grass and I vote for seles at the us pen she was just a mentally tougher player than graf prestabbing!
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Re: Peak Graf vs peak Seles

This has been debated numerous times over the years, so need to have another thread open to discuss it
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