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Kvitova of course. I just don't see why all the hype.
Yes. She and Errani.
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Kvitova can play great game, she proved it especially in 2011, but also last year. I don't think she's that particularly overhyped? Just had a slower season, but still successful. We don't know if 2012's Kvitova (Vika) can mentally and physically keep up in 2013. Petra quite couldn't, but it's not something so very bad. She's still one of the top.

Also surely not Radwanska, she's pretty much hated on here. I don't see how someone insulted in every second post is over rated

I think it would be typically someone very pretty with nice, offensive, yet often erratic game, like Goerges or Kirilenko. They have good careers with ranks that reflect the abilities, but sometimes I bump into tweets like these two were good enough to win slams...

When to look at bookmakers' odds, Barthel and Robson are horribly overrated Mona at the beginning of the season, Laura after USO, like she already won that slam. Her odds in Asia were ridiculous for somebody this young and without major successes.

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Yes. She and Errani.
Errani overrated? you must be kidding. Everyone here saying she is just a lucky journeywoman. You don't see any hype about her, and the truth is she work hard and her results are really great.

Some people need to learn that there are a lot more ways to play tennis than bashing the ball with every stroke
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Errani overrated? you must be kidding. Everyone here saying she is just a lucky journeywoman. You don't see any hype about her, and the truth is she work hard and her results are really great.

Some people need to learn that there are a lot more ways to play tennis than bashing the ball with every stroke

What? More ways to play Tennis, sure..but please, stop the Errani-way...
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Some people seems to don't know what overrated means, when you expect big results for someone but reality is very different. When you are putting the player as favourite to win everything but she is lucky to reach the fourth round, that's being overrated.
The doesn't aply Errani in any way, in fact everybody is expecting her to lose at any round, but she reach almost everytime the final stages.

I know everybody has their taste on tennis games, and i perfectly undertand that not everybody is going to enjoy Errani's game (i'm not a big fan either), but she is not overrated by any means
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Some people seems to don't know what overrated means, when you expect big results for someone but reality is very different. When you are putting the player as favourite to win everything but she is lucky to reach the fourth round, that's being overrated.
The doesn't aply Errani in any way, in fact everybody is expecting her to lose at any round, but she reach almost everytime the final stages.

I know everybody has their taste on tennis games, and i perfectly undertand that not everybody is going to enjoy Errani's game (i'm not a big fan either), but she is not overrated by any means
I agree. But it doesn't come as a surprise that most think that asking "who's the most overrated player" is identical to asking "which player do you like the least."

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Kvitova can play great game, she proved it especially in 2011, but also last year. I don't think she's that particularly overhyped? Just had a slower season, but still successful. We don't know if 2012's Kvitova (Vika) can mentally and physically keep up in 2013. Petra quite couldn't, but it's not something so very bad. She's still one of the top.
From 6 titles in 2011 (incl. Wimbledon and YEC) to just two in 2012 (and no GS final) that's not what I call a successful season. It would have been successful for an aspiring Top 10 player but not for someone who was supposed to be the new dominator and take over #1 from Wozniacki. Given the high expectations, Kvitova underperformed badly in 2012. Question remains whether underperfoming means the same as over-hyped?

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Kvitova obviously totally disappointed this year. Had trouble beating top 10 players the whole year and lack of fitness is the most damning.

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I agree. But it doesn't come as a surprise that most think that asking "who's the most overrated player" is identical to asking "which player do you like the least."
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And there is the obvious problem of the discussions in GM: a cruel lack of objectivity from many posters, poisoning the debates with endless childish statements without any kind of mind.

This notion of "overrated player" exists only in a subjective reasoning. No player can be truly 'overrated' as no judgement can be objectively true, so the question doesn't make sense
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You may precisely answer who is over- and who is underrated by comparing systematically bettors expectations with real results.
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The winner of RG and queen of clay is overrated? ok......

Queen of what? Yeah right....just like she was Queen of Grass, Queen of USO and Queen of AO, right or is she no longer queen of those surface according to her fans?? Dress her in borrowed robes all u want, but we all know who the Queen of them surfaces are and pova's name ain't even close to any of them. Can we talk of Henin, Venus, Kim Y Serena?

Wimbledon: Venus 6, Serena 5.
USO: Venus 2, Kim 3, Serena 4
AO: : Serena 5,
FO: : Henin 5

By your standard, a player who luckily win a slam on a surface is suddenly queen of that surface? Never mind that the ultimate prize of authority on any surface is the slam. Pova has never won more than 1 in her almost a decade on tour and has never, I mean NEVER defended any she won to date. Queen of Clay, huh?

Pova is the most overrated player ever!!
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sharapova is overrated because she has occasional good years when everyone is mostly injured or off form

when the best players (SERENA) are fit and competing, she loses

it's simple
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I agree. But it doesn't come as a surprise that most think that asking "who's the most overrated player" is identical to asking "which player do you like the least."
Indeed, in general people here tend to give the same answer to different questions.
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Do people actually know what overrated means? If so, then how the fuck are Radwanska and Errani overrated when every other poster thinks they're talentless scrubs?

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Do people actually know what overrated means? If so, than how the fuck are Radwanska and Errani overrated when every other poster thinks they're talentless scrubs?
Yup. Errani especially. Infact she has to be the most underrated player in this forum by a big margin. No player this year has won more matches they were expected to lose than Errani. That is the best possible indication a player is underrated.

Find the player who has lost the most matches they were expected to win and you have the most overrated player. It's that simple.

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