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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 16th, 2012, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
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2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Since everyone's at it.

2000 Venus - Wimbledon, US Open, OG, Absent at YEC

2012 Serena - Wimbledon, US Open, OG, YEC


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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old Nov 16th, 2012, 11:04 AM
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

just watched venus v hingis at 2000 wimbledon,

the serena of 2012 wins 6-2 6-2, venus hits a lot more powerfully in her later years, early years (including 2000) the majority of shots tended to be loopy, and in this match especially they were landing pretty short

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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Definitely Vee 2000.
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Really tough to say. Serena in 2012 always has the serving advantage. Both are so mentally strong. Venus moves better, but she liked to rally too much. Serena in 2012 would still tee off on Venus' second serves, too. Venus' shots were explosive back then, so it's really tough. I say Serena 7-6 7-5 on hardcourts and grass. Serena wins easier on clay.

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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

i think venus's best form in the years 07-09 was the best she's ever produced, hitting harder and much more consistently offensive than in 2000 while still serving and moving well

it's a misconception that early venus hit consistently hard, just watch the matches, there's a lot of mid-paced, mid-court rallying, a style she transitioned from, probably why her success on clay diminished

there's no way that earlier style competes with the serena of today
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Serena 2012 is stronger.
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Serena in two easy sets.
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Venus something like 6-4, 6-2

Serena 2012 isn't nearly athletic enough.

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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

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Venus something like 6-4, 6-2

Serena 2012 isn't nearly athletic enough.
This. At the end of the day Venus in 2000 would get get serena on the run alot more and nto allow her to dictate play.
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

The only aspect of the game that makes this even debateable is the serve.

The Rena 2012 serve could make this match up close just because of a sheer inability to be broken.

But peak Venus would outhit this Serena, and as others have mentioned would athletically outmanoeuvre 2012 Serena in every area of the court.

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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

Does anyone have a list of the quality of player(s) both defeated in their runs? I think that would be the deciding factor for me.
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Does anyone have a list of the quality of player(s) both defeated in their runs? I think that would be the deciding factor for me.
Venus:
Hingis x2, Seles x3, Davenport x3, ASV x1, Serena x1, Dementieva x1

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Hingis x2, Seles x3, Davenport x3, ASV x1, Serena x1, Dementieva x1
Enough said, thank you. Definitely Venus IMO.
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Re: 2000 Venus vs 2012 Serena

But remember this is only Serena's SECOND best season..and it's foolish to compare a 20 year old Vee to a 31 year old Serena.

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But remember this is only Serena's SECOND best season..and it's foolish to compare a 20 year old Vee to a 31 year old Serena.
Exactly. Especially over a decade apart. It's obvious that Venus beat tougher players her run but Serena decimated the best this generation had to offer.

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