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post #46 of 52 (permalink) Old Nov 18th, 2012, 04:40 PM
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Not that I think Nicole is some amazing player but this insane overrating of a clown who couldnt even win a tournament is so funny. What the heck was peak Kournikova, the one who lost to Smashanova in a couple of the tournament finals she made (reminder again Anna = ZERO tournament titles), and made only TWO slam quarterfinals. Obviously alot of men on this forum drooling over Anna's "beauty".


Using the title argument surely Smashnova with her 19 is one of the greatest players to never win a slam

Apart from Smashnova Kournikova lost her finals to Venus and Hingis whereas Nicole beat Granville, Razzano, Peng and Tati (by retirement) plus when Kournikova was losing in Tier I and II she was losing in QF and SF to people like Hingis, Venus, Seles, Graf, Davenport, and Pierce all slam winners.

Maybe this thread should be WWW: Peak Stacey Tan vs Peak Bruna Colosio. No way would Anna lose 6-2, 6-1 to Stacey Tan who never even made Top 500. When you take their most embarrassing losses at least Colosio was a Top 300 player.

I personally like Nicole but to say she is immensely better than Kournikova is ridiculous, had Anna played in the same era she would have had a similar if not better career than Nicole, Anna's years on tour were possibly the toughest, whereas Nicole was peaking 2006-2008 a pretty weak time for the WTA.
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Using the title argument surely Smashnova with her 19 is one of the greatest players to never win a slam
I wouldnt say that but it seems peak Smashanova > peak Kournikova probably. Anna at her peak (and she is only making tournament finals to play people like Anna S. at her peak considering she isnt good enough to win a tournament ever) cant do what Smashanova managed many times, win tournaments, even sometimes entering some of the same Mickey Mouse draws and events she did and won. Anna leads their H2H 3-2 when both were roughly at their career peak, but Anna S. won their two most important finals, a tournament final, and the semis of Auckland which led to a title for Ana over Panova in the final (which Anna probably also would have won but for the 2nd time was denied the title she so desperately craved by Anna S.).


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I personally like Nicole but to say she is immensely better than Kournikova is ridiculous, had Anna played in the same era she would have had a similar if not better career than Nicole, Anna's years on tour were possibly the toughest, whereas Nicole was peaking 2006-2008 a pretty weak time for the WTA.
Yes a time ruled by peak Justine Henin, who light years from her prime many years earlier was beating peak Kournikova in straight sets everytime they met (even once as the World #58 while Anna was a top 16 seed), would be easy fodder for the great 0 titles Kournikova. BTW Anna was owned by both Henin and Clijsters in 2000 when they werent even top 30 players, are 2000 versions of Clijsters and Henin (when they were pre of their pre prime periods if you will, lol) better than peak Nicole. Anna lost one of her best ever chances at a tournament title as well in Leipzig 2000 where she was crushed in the semis by a 16 year old 31st ranked Clijsters, who would go on to win the title in 3 sets over Likhovtseva in the final. So lets not pretend Anna didnt have some fairly easy opportunities at tournament titles, but still wasnt good enough to get it done.

You say it is laughable to imply Nicole is immensely better than Anna, yet you of course say NOTHING to the people I was responding to who imply Kournikova was immensely better than Nicole. Apparently in your eyes that is completely fine.

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What a delusional you guys are.
She retired since 2003 with zero title and 1 slam semifinal. Get over it.
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Anna's years on tour were possibly the toughest, whereas Nicole was peaking 2006-2008 a pretty weak time for the WTA.
That is far from true. e.g. 1997-2000 with Graf out the game and ending her career, Seles nothing like her former self and the Williams sisters only breaking through and still beatable. Novotna was the world number 2 and Coetzer the world number 4 in 1997 ! That's how tough it was ! Nathalie Tauziat made a Wimbledon final the next year. 2 years later Barbara Schett and Julie Halard-Decugis were top ten players. Not the toughest by a long, long way !
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Using the title argument surely Smashnova with her 19 is one of the greatest players to never win a slam

Apart from Smashnova Kournikova lost her finals to Venus and Hingis whereas Nicole beat Granville, Razzano, Peng and Tati (by retirement) plus when Kournikova was losing in Tier I and II she was losing in QF and SF to people like Hingis, Venus, Seles, Graf, Davenport, and Pierce all slam winners.

Maybe this thread should be WWW: Peak Stacey Tan vs Peak Bruna Colosio. No way would Anna lose 6-2, 6-1 to Stacey Tan who never even made Top 500. When you take their most embarrassing losses at least Colosio was a Top 300 player.

I personally like Nicole but to say she is immensely better than Kournikova is ridiculous, had Anna played in the same era she would have had a similar if not better career than Nicole, Anna's years on tour were possibly the toughest, whereas Nicole was peaking 2006-2008 a pretty weak time for the WTA.
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Kournikova, unless it was a final.

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Using the title argument surely Smashnova with her 19 is one of the greatest players to never win a slam

Apart from Smashnova Kournikova lost her finals to Venus and Hingis whereas Nicole beat Granville, Razzano, Peng and Tati (by retirement) plus when Kournikova was losing in Tier I and II she was losing in QF and SF to people like Hingis, Venus, Seles, Graf, Davenport, and Pierce all slam winners.

Maybe this thread should be WWW: Peak Stacey Tan vs Peak Bruna Colosio. No way would Anna lose 6-2, 6-1 to Stacey Tan who never even made Top 500. When you take their most embarrassing losses at least Colosio was a Top 300 player.

I personally like Nicole but to say she is immensely better than Kournikova is ridiculous, had Anna played in the same era she would have had a similar if not better career than Nicole, Anna's years on tour were possibly the toughest, whereas Nicole was peaking 2006-2008 a pretty weak time for the WTA.
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