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Re: Matches where players retired to prevent beatdowns?

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I really never have worked out why people get so much sand in their pants about players retiring as if it mentally traumatizes their opponent is just the worst breach of fair play ever... I mean, sure... it sucks for the crowd to see a match that doesn't finish naturally, but it also sucks for a crowd to see a dull beatdown. The only person who really suffers as a result of retiring without genuine injury is the retiring player themselves, any player who is kicking someone 6-0, 3-0 or similar is 99% of the time mentally tough enough to realise they'd have won whatever, and if not... they need to get tougher and not allow such a trivial thing to bother them.
You said it yourself yeah. The winning player deserves the pleasure of finishing a good performance and we all want to see a match finish. I have no clue why you'd wanna defend players who retire when there's no real need for it.


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I remember a match in Bag Gastein 2010

Sevastova def. Halep 5-7 6-1 5-0 ret.

Halep just went to her bench, took her bag and went away

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Re: Matches where players retired to prevent beatdowns?

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You said it yourself yeah. The winning player deserves the pleasure of finishing a good performance and we all want to see a match finish. I have no clue why you'd wanna defend players who retire when there's no real need for it.
It's not about defending players who retire needlessly... I think they're being idiots and should just finish the match. However, in the scheme of morality I just don't think it's a big deal to the extent that people want to scream "CHEATER!" at them like reactionary crazies. I don't think it's a good thing or something anyone wants, I just don't see it as a big problem that requires any moral outrage. Clearly, there would be an issue if you had a player who retired every time they got down in a match, because there would be a genuine sporting/fair play issue that was a real and extant problem and would be a real issue for the credibility of the sport. But wanting to crucify Henin or Kerber or whoever else for bowing out of an isolated match is disproportionate and I don't agree with it.

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I know this is the women's forum but this year didn't the commentators want Davydenko to retire, pretend he was injured just to get off the damn court and not embarrass himself further?
And he did 'quit' that match.....

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Kimiko Date Krumm def Daniela Hantuchova 2:6 6:0 4:0 ret - Tokyo 2r 2010

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Zurich 2007? Schnyder d S.WIlliams 60 30...being too tired to finish
a match is no excuse for retiring, sorry.
Serena's retired another time to avoid a bagel by legend/myth



Jankovic is another beatdown avoider:

- 2007 YEC............. Bartoli def. JJ 6-1 1-0 ret.
- 2010 Wimbledon..... Bepa def JJ 6-1 3-0 ret.
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Serena usually withdraws or tanks when she sees that Maria is playing well enough to give her a beatdown. Like she did in Rome and Australian Open this year.
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Serena's retired another time to avoid a bagel by legend/myth



Jankovic is another beatdown avoider:

- 2007 YEC............. Bartoli def. JJ 6-1 1-0 ret.
- 2010 Wimbledon..... Bepa def JJ 6-1 3-0 ret.
She was clearly injured at Wimbledon and clearly sick at YEC 07 losing all three matches horribly

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AO '06 Final.

Amelie Mauresmo def Justine 'peak of my fitness' Henin 6-1 2-0 ret.
Oh the irony .... a JJ fan
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Oh the irony .... a JJ fan
I don't recall Jankovic retiring in a Slam final. Jankovic is many things, but she never disgraced herself to that degree.
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Serena usually withdraws or tanks when she sees that Maria is playing well enough to give her a beatdown. Like she did in Rome and Australian Open this year.








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Re: Matches where players retired to prevent beatdowns?

Nadia retired 6-0 3-0 down against Ivanovic in Rome last year and I think the next day she played doubles
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Re: Matches where players retired to prevent beatdowns?

I remember Rodionova ret at 0-5 in the 2nd set after losing the first set against Wozniak at the Rogers Cup.
Also Dubois ret at 2-6 2-5 in the final of Granby 50K this year against Genie Bouchard with no good reason at all.
Azarenka has retired without being really injured as well...just look at her Mandatory event results she played this year...highly doubtful lol

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Hum no I think he's right, look at all the time she was in Sharapova's draw and that she lost early...Maria was always playing well and Serena wasn't at her best. That's a weird coincidence to me lol. Not saying Serena ain't able to crush Maria when she's playing well tho lol cuz she's doing it when she feels good.

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Re: Matches where players retired to prevent beatdowns?

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Petrova did it when Ana was destroying her at some clay event, I forgot if it was this year or last? Actually I don't even know, maybe she was injured I can't remember
Yeah Nadia was 60 30 down in Rome last year, called the trainer and then retired without even having a MTO. Worst part is that she played doubles the next day with Rodionova

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