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What's going on, junior?! You act like it's only against Serena that Maria got emberassed on a global scale?! You forgot about the Oz open?!
You're quick to change the subject aren't you Well if you look at it like that Maria rebounded from that final loss and then won the French Open , a slam on which Rena lost in the first round btw .
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Like Oudin, Kirilenko, et al..ever mounted to anything special?!
At least, they won more than 1 match.
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The difference is, unlike Serena fans, when Maria was getting bundled out of Slams by scrubs like Oudin or Kirilenko, we weren't claiming she was the best player in the world (or anywhere close)
Welll...that's the thing. When Masha was losing to them, she didn't have anything to back that talk down.
Serena EVEN with the loss to Razanno, has better achievements than the no.1 AND the no.2 this year..big difference.

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You're quick to change the subject aren't you Well if you look at it like that Maria rebounded from that final loss and then won the French Open , a slam on which Rena lost in the first round btw .
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At least, they won more than 1 match.

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Great, great..praise the Lord for Errani!
It was never going to be Serena in the finals
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It was never going to be Serena in the finals
Nope, she and Maria were on the same side of the draw.

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Not worth my time. What Safina implied is in the article so if you want to find it then it's in the OP. it's pretty clear what most people in this thread felt what Safina implied.
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Re: Safina: Serena must play full year to be real No. 1

One more time. Serena won't be #1 with her reduced schedule. Even if she wins one more slam she won't be #1. And it's not caused by ranking system.

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Re: Safina: Serena must play full year to be real No. 1

First off, the 1R loss which everyone claims is why she's not #1, isn't the sole reason why she isn't #1. Serena could have had a *respectable run* of anything from a QF to a WIN, and still not be #1, according to Boiled Egg's updated rankings (though anything but a slam win these days is mocked by the haters. Tards like Dsanders mock her RU result at the USO last year even though it was just mere months after a pulmonary embolism, whereas it took his fave years to get back to a slam final )

As far as why she ISN'T #1, I think we all know the answer. Serena doesn't have any Fall points, her injury in Australia prevented her from going deep, and Vika/Maria have done well in all the tournaments Serena hasn't played and minimized the point differential earned in the ones they played together. No, Serena did not play a completely full schedule but she did more than she usually does.

I'm not going to bash her scheduling decisions just because she's not supporting the tour at a couple additional low-rent events a year in the fall (which is very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things). Her schedule management is a BIG reason why she's still in the game and in winning form. Y'all will be so lucky for your fave to have this kind of longevity. I hope for your sakes it does cuz I have grown up watching Serena from a pre-teen all the way into my 20's, and it's been a pleasure. It's just not realistic to play the tour at full schedule, full speed, for year after year and expect to last long at a high level. Before Serena earned her dues as a GOAT, she was out there playing a full schedule like Vika has this year and winning (and I'm not bashing Vika doing that, she's young and fresh, so she should make the most of it).

Serena has been the best player this year from her achievements (most titles, most slams, best winning percentage, etc.) as will be reflected by a likely POY award. However, I will agree that Vika has been the most consistent player across 12 months, and got over the Slam-virgin hump after years of being stopped and proceeded to have a historic start to the year. There also is really no gaps in results this year. She is the most consistent player of the year and that is what the #1 ranking is.
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First off, the 1R loss which everyone claims is why she's not #1, isn't the sole reason why she isn't #1. Serena could have had a *respectable run* of anything from a QF to a WIN, and still not be #1, according to Boiled Egg's updated rankings (though anything but a slam win these days is mocked by the haters. Tards like Dsanders mock her RU result at the USO last year even though it was just mere months after a pulmonary embolism, whereas it took his fave years to get back to a slam final )

As far as why she ISN'T #1, I think we all know the answer. Serena doesn't have any Fall points, her injury in Australia prevented her from going deep, and Vika/Maria have done well in all the tournaments Serena hasn't played and minimized the point differential earned in the ones they played together. No, Serena did not play a completely full schedule but she did more than she usually does.

I'm not going to bash her scheduling decisions just because she's not supporting the tour at a couple additional low-rent events a year in the fall (which is very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things). Her schedule management is a BIG reason why she's still in the game and in winning form. Y'all will be so lucky for your fave to have this kind of longevity. I hope for your sakes it does cuz I have grown up watching Serena from a pre-teen all the way into my 20's, and it's been a pleasure. It's just not realistic to play the tour at full schedule, full speed, for year after year and expect to last long at a high level. Before Serena earned her dues as a GOAT, she was out there playing a full schedule like Vika has this year and winning (and I'm not bashing Vika doing that, she's young and fresh, so she should make the most of it).

Serena has been the best player this year from her achievements (most titles, most slams, best winning percentage, etc.) as will be reflected by a likely POY award. However, I will agree that Vika has been the most consistent player across 12 months, and got over the Slam-virgin hump after years of being stopped and proceeded to have a historic start to the year. There also is really no gaps in results this year. She is the most consistent player of the year and that is what the #1 ranking is.

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Re: Safina: Serena must play full year to be real No. 1

What exactly does a "full schedule" mean? Are there different requirements depending on rankings?
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