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post #346 of 572 (permalink) Old Oct 1st, 2012, 01:15 AM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

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If you ask any and all the pro tennis players what do they prefer to win, or what really counts, they will say SLAMS!!
We were not talking about what players do prefer winning,but about the game itself and comparation between games of Steffi Graf and Monica Seles and for that only H2H tells the story...
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And you still refuse to answer my question and that would be:

"If Graf's records are tainted why is she always voted as the greatest?"


cehowardrx7, you don't have an answer to my question or you are just avoiding answering it in order to be quietly forgotten?

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cehowardrx7, you don't have an answer to my question or you are just avoiding answering it in order to be quietly forgotten?
As I expected,too frightened to answer or has no answer at all
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Anabelcroft, with all the respect in the world, why don't you just drop it? Graf is "old news". Here slam count is "old news" too. It is what it is, tainted. Nobody even wants to hear about Graf anyway..Graf is old tainted history. We are talking about the present players. Can't compare them to players old. Competition is stiffer these days.

Please let it go! No matter how many times you post and try to make Graf be this and that, it won't happen. You want records that are not tainted? Billy Jean King, Court, Evert, Martina, etc.. They have records that are not tainted..
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Anabelcroft, with all the respect in the world, why don't you just drop it? Graf is "old news".
I see you still don't want to answer my question.That shows how powerless you are and now you even try to confuse me with changing the subject and begging me to drop it,just to be able to avoid the answer so that your public weakness can easily be forgotten... Lol

Why don't YOU drop it if you already avoid answering one simple question?

If she is "old news" and "history" why is she voted the greatest woman to have played tennis by the majority in 2012 at the Australian Open and by Tennis-magazine,also in 2012?
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I see you still don't want to answer my question.That shows how powerless you are and now you even try to confuse me with changing the subject and begging me to drop it,just to be able to avoid the answer so that your public weakness can easily be forgotten... Lol

Why don't YOU drop it if you already avoid answering one simple question?

If she is "old news" and "history" why is she voted the greatest woman to have played tennis by the majority in 2012 at the Australian Open and by Tennis-magazine,also in 2012?
By the majority of who?? Graf Tards???
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By the majority of who?? Graf Tards???
Again,you didn't answer my question

43% is a majority

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/...373295547.html

" Graf garnered more than 3500 votes to finish with a whopping 43 per cent of the vote as the greatest women’s player, well clear of her former rival Martina Navratilova, who came in second with 2390 votes (29 per cent). "

Voted by people around the world

http://www.tennischannel.com/goat/gallery4.aspx

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Who is greater, Graf vs Court?

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Greatest player of all time...

and even by the people on this forum

Didn't know there are so many of the Graf tards considering that she is "old news and history" as you say?

It must be some world wide conspiracy

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Graf is old tainted history. We are talking about the present players.
Does this mean that all other Grand Slam winners until 2003 should be given asterix or just Graf because she won most of them?

Based on that Arantxa should give up her RG titles('94 and '98),her US title('94),Mary Pierce her AO 1995 and RG 2000,Martina Hingis,Serena and Venus Williams etc.?
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

graf is the greatest......
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graf is the greatest......
proclaimed only by Graf-tards, as ceh(c)owardrx7 claims ...
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

It never gets old to talk about how Graf benefited from that ugly stabbing.
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Cali... I mean, let it go. The thread has run it's course..how long you gonna go with this?! Graf is in the GOAT conversation, heck most probably think she's the goat. Let it go already.

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proclaimed only by Graf-tards, as ceh(c)owardrx7 claims ...
even without stabbing, i don't see monica taking more than 2 more slams from graf and graf taking less than 20 slams.......20 slams in 90s is far greater than 24 slams in an era where nobody moved their lazy arses around once the ball got past their wingspan......
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even without stabbing, i don't see monica taking more than 2 more slams from graf and graf taking less than 20 slams.......20 slams in 90s is far greater than 24 slams in an era where nobody moved their lazy arses around once the ball got past their wingspan......
Well,we surely don't know what would have been if...

But the fact stays that every player that can win 7 matches in a row on 4 different occasions per year has deserved his/her Grand Slam title and that is what counts most!
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Cali... I mean, let it go. The thread has run it's course..how long you gonna go with this?! Graf is in the GOAT conversation, heck most probably think she's the goat. Let it go already.

Maybe I'm not hip enough, daft, or haven't been on Tennis Forum long enough. But what does "Cali" mean or stand for? I've seen you write that before.

And please don't say California. And if so, please tell me why.
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