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Wrong! You have NOT heard me say or tout how great Seles was. You have heard me say how Graf's record is tainted because Seles was stabbed for the sole reason of advancing Graf. The only thing you heard me say was great is how the old man can sling a motorcycle into a corner at breakneck speeds and make it look easy!!!
OK.

Fair enough (on the what Seles could do part).

We still have some slight disagreement on your reaction of Gunther Parche's intentions.

I could see you feeling he did his job, if he would have permanently, physically harmed Seles. He didn't.

The rest was up to Seles. Not that it makes her bad or what he did good. But when you say what you say, you don't account for the fact that not every player "would of went out like that".
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OK (and nicely written).

But you still didn't answer my Serena question?

And to be quite honest, maybe you and other more rational tennis fans may have felt Seles would have maxed out at 11-13 majors. But what you don't realize is, there are some of her more vigilant fans, that feel she could have won as much majors or been as good as Serena, Chrisse, Martina, Court and Graf.

That's what I think you don't realize. And by the way, this response was originally only the top 2 lines ("OK, nicely written. But you still didn't answer my Serena question"). I just added the next few. Lol
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I don't even wanna THINK about Serena getting stabbed.
True dat!

However, I was mostly dealing with mental, comeback aspect, after the fact.
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Some people just don't like overachievers.
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Brain cells are just fine,everything is crystal sharp.
Well, like every lunatic thinks he is not a lunatic
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The sole purpose of the stabber was to stop Seles from beating Graf.
Well,not even up to that point Seles wasn't beating Graf, just look at their meetings

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To tell the truth, the stabber did more harm to Graf than what was done to Seles. The stabber put the mark on Graf that will always be there.
And again I ask you:

If this mark is always there how come most of people have voted her as all time greatest in every poll and why?
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And again I ask you:

If this mark is always there how come most of people have voted her as all time greatest in every poll and why?
Most people? You talking about the computer nerds the frequent the web? They are not a mirror of the real world and all the people.

Case in point. Try to talk about Graf slam count, without the stabbing being injected! Can't be done.

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Steffi was amazing athlete for her time and she had one of the most beautiful styles in history. Amazingly consistent as well.

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Graf is local.
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Graf is local.
You obviously mixed her up with the "Legend"
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Well,not even up to that point Seles wasn't beating Graf, just look at their meetings

Yes, Seles beating Graf in the Slam finals of the French Open (twice) and the Australian Open are only products of the imagination of the Seles fans

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Yes, Seles beating Graf in the Slam finals of the French Open (twice) and the Australian Open are only products of the imagination of the Seles fans
Matt it is very plain to see that you are a Graf-Tard, and one that doesn't do his/her research well either. Because you have just put your foot in your mouth.

Here are 3 slams where Seles beat Graf.. French Open TWICE and the Austrailian Open!!

As Graf the opponent!

1990 Roland Garros (Paris) Final 7-6, 6-4 Monica Seles

1992 Roland Garros (Paris) Final 6-2, 3-6, 10-8 Monica Seles

1993 Australian Open (Melbourne) Final 4-6, 6-3, 6-2 Monica Seles


Also, Graf's Slam Count not being Tainted is only products of the imagination of the Graf fans!!

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Matt it is very plain to see that you are a Graf-Tard, and one that doesn't do his/her research well either. Because you have just put your foot in your mouth.

Here are 3 slams where Seles beat Graf.. French Open TWICE and the Austrailian Open!!

As Graf the opponent!

1990 Roland Garros (Paris) Final 7-6, 6-4 Monica Seles

1992 Roland Garros (Paris) Final 6-2, 3-6, 10-8 Monica Seles

1993 Australian Open (Melbourne) Final 4-6, 6-3, 6-2 Monica Seles


Also, Graf's Slam Count not being Tainted is only products of the imagination of the Graf fans!!
Wow!

I'll defend Matt01 here (before he does).

He was making fun of "Graftards" and not supporting them.

Didn't you read and process his thread (as well as read his other ones)?
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Yes, Seles beating Graf in the Slam finals of the French Open (twice) and the Australian Open are only products of the imagination of the Seles fans
Did not say that,of course, just that Graf always had the upper hand in their matches...even when Monica was number 1!I know you like this thing fact so much
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