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post #181 of 572 (permalink) Old Sep 21st, 2012, 10:13 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

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Hingis 1997 is better than any Graf season except 1988


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One of the most stupid posts I ever read
The fuck is wrong with you, troll?

Gangstress is 100% right. This argument has been made thousands of times on this board. It is by far the #1 reason why Graf's credentials as GOAT get called into question. That said, it's obviously bullshit.

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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Graf is exactly where she should be without being overrated and overlooked!
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This is a GOAT discussion, those with less than double digit slams should sit the fuck down, yeah Seles fans I'm talking to you. No If, but, and, or bullshit.
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This is a GOAT discussion, those with less than double digit slams should sit the fuck down
Agree with you!
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post #186 of 572 (permalink) Old Sep 22nd, 2012, 03:02 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

IMO,she is not overlooked.

If she is voted the greatest by so many others,that shows general opinion.She would be overlooked if she wasn't.

Maybe Navratilova or Court can find themselves overlooked due to their doubles and mix doubles achievements,but it's not up to me to decide that,but to general opinion which reflects in voting.
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Lawl. Graf was lucky to play in such a weak era.

Declined Nav, Opposition bumped off or talentless moonballers.

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Among others Raymond, Coetzer and Majoli say hi
At least in 1997 Hingis didn't lose against Coetzer 6-0 6-1

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At least in 1997 Hingis didn't lose against Coetzer 6-0 6-1
True,but if you followed conversation you would figure that we were talking about best seasons,not worst
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Opposition talentless moonballers.
One of these "weak era talentless moonballers" has a very good record against Serena and a very bad one against Graf.
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True,but if you followed conversation you would figure that we were talking about best seasons,not worst
Name a better season than Hingis' in 1997, apart from Graf in 1988.

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Name a better season than Hingis' in 1997, apart from Graf in 1988.
1. Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2. Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3. Steffi Graf 72-3 0.969 1988
4. Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1995
5. Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
6. Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990

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1. Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2. Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3. Steffi Graf 72-3 0.969 1988
4. Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1995

5. Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
6. Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990

etc.


1987: ABSENT, WIN, WIN, FINAL (Hingis' 1997 >>)
1995: ABSENT, WIN, WIN, WIN (Hingis' 1997 >>)

But I'll give you 1989

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But I'll give you 1989
This is not something you, me or anyone give or take...it's official WTA statistic whether we like it or not...

And even if "you give me" just 2 out of 4 better seasons than Hingis, it's still enough to trump hers...
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