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Stay pressed and stop lurking around SS , oh and always remember Razzano
Career Golden Slam..what's there to stay pressed about?!

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I think they're pressed that Maria became good on a surface Serena can't reach her.
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Maria was lucky, but everyone would try to take the chance, but only real champions would! Although, I still think that Maria was opportunist!
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Career Golden Slam..what's there to stay pressed about?!

Ah Razzano..only if you guys don't forget about Kirilenko, amongst others.
That's what I'm saying, your fave won so much this year and you're still pressed about what Maria achieved which is a career slam btw , I know Maria has had your mind for a while now but dude chill.

And at you thinking that Kirilenko is on the same level as Razzano .
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That's what I'm saying, your fave won so much this year and you're still pressed about what Maria achieved which is a career slam btw , I know Maria has had your mind for a while now but dude chill.

And at you thinking that Kirilenko is on the same level as Razzano .
Razzano's highest ranking was no.16..Kirilenko no.12..is it that much of a difference?!

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I think they're pressed that Maria became good on a surface Serena can't reach her.
Is that right?! Okay fine...Maria is the new clay-queen. But since the gap on the other surfaces is even wider in Serena's favor..it won't matter anyway. Don't you see it. Masha finally wins that 4th major..all mashatards went yada yada..dsanders had to made his usual stupid threads about Serena...

fastforward to now: the gap between Serena and Masha in GS tallies got WIDER instead of closer.

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Razzano's highest ranking was no.16..Kirilenko no.12..is it that much of a difference?!

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Peer was about to enter top 10 at some point in her career, what are you implying here ?
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Peer was about to enter top 10 at some point in her career, what are you implying here ?
You act like Kirilenko is some perenial top player or something.

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You act like Kirilenko is some perenial top player or something.
Kirilenko's highlights of the year: Qaurterfinals at Indian Wells, Wimbledon, Semifinals at the Olympics .

Razzano's highlights of the year: Well her win against Serena at the French nothing else.

You do the math .
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Is that right?! Okay fine...Maria is the new clay-queen. But since the gap on the other surfaces is even wider in Serena's favor..it won't matter anyway. Don't you see it. Masha finally wins that 4th major..all mashatards went yada yada..dsanders had to made his usual stupid threads about Serena...

fastforward to now: the gap between Serena and Masha in GS tallies got WIDER instead of closer.
The gap isn't even wider for Serena on others surfaces, Maria is reaching finals and semis and she is actually losing to Vika and Serena on HC and on grass.
Serena is losing to Razzano and in first round, you're delusional.
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I was pleased to see Maria win Roland Garros, but in all honesty her supposed clay court prowess has more to do with the complete lack of depth and talent on that surface in the WTA more than anything else. She has improved her sliding to the backhand side and added a touch of topspin to her forehand, but that does not equate to a RG title without external factors coming into play. She plays her natural power game on clay and does not use variations of spin or all dimensions of the court in the way that Henin, Sanchez Vicario, Graf or Evert would do.
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Kirilenko's highlights of the year: Qaurterfinals at Indian Wells, Wimbledon, Semifinals at the Olympics .

Razzano's highlights of the year: Well her win against Serena at the French nothing else.

You do the math .
What were her highlights when she beat Masha at the Oz open?!
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The gap isn't even wider for Serena on others surfaces, Maria is reaching finals and semis and she is actually losing to Vika and Serena on HC and on grass.
Serena is losing to Razzano and in first round, you're delusional.
What's with this Razzano-talk?! Serena's FIRST loss in a 1r and you guys act like THAT'S her norm?!
Besides..it ain't like Masha's known for reaching multiple finals at the majors either, no?! For all we know..it gonna be another 4 years for reaches a final at RG.

Anyways, we'll see how it goes..

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What were her highlights when she beat Masha at the Oz open?!
You guys trying tooo hard...
Kirilenko actually reached the Quarters at AO 2010 right after beating Masha, and what did Razzano do after beating Rena? She also had quarters at Rome, Auckland,Stanford, Semis at New Haven and finals at Moscow. Not bad don't you think? She ended the year at 20.

Stop drawing parallels between Maria's loss against Kirilenko to that of Serena against Razzano. Kirilenko is a quality player, Razzano is not.
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Re: BOMBSHELL! 2012: 4 different slam winners in ATP and only 3 in WTA

Anyone who won a slam this year has been excellent, across any surface with any draw.
You simply cannot state that Maria was an 'opportunist' by winning FO with a weak draw because, a)Rena was in her quarter and lost b)She faced top 3 player Petra in the semis c)She cannot control WHATEVER THE FUCK goes on in the rest of the draw. Rena's USO pathway was NID until the final, and from there it was a great match to watch. Masha's already proved she can beat 'big' players by taking out Petra, Stosur and Vika in the clay season. By stating there's no depth in clay tennis you could easily use that argument for the grass season, we have Petra + Rena (lisicki) as grasscourt 'specialists', though in truth you need a big serve and controlled aggression to get those wins. Masha has improved her movement on clay, and winning the FO was by no means a fluke especially considering the surface.

Why can't we all just be happy our fave (or at least the top elite players) are improving the WTA standards by going deep in tournaments, being consistent and winning. We have three generations now: Vika/Aga - Masha - Rena all competing which I think is spectacular.
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