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Obnoxiousness as a tennis strategy

Imagine, if you will, someone who plays tennis TO the crowd. Someone who goes all Jimmy Connors after every great point. Who taunts the opponent after winners. Who doesn't give a fig about getting along or being liked by the other players. Who takes a bow after touch shots. Someone who behaves like a combination of Mansour Bahrami, McEnroe, Connors, Gilbert, Robin Soderling and Yulia Putintseva.

I'm imagining the sort of person who would kick over Nadal's water bottles; who would imitate Nadal's butt-picking; who would imitate Pova's and Azarenka's shreiking to their faces; who would imitate Pova's stutter-step and fist-pump, or Petra's dog-yip; who would shush a hostile crowd like Berdych did once after beating Nadal, or tell the hecklers "Allez up your effing ass" like Pova once did; who would stand at the service line to receive, like Aga once did to Pova; who would bump into the opponent like Spirlea did to Venus, or Nadal did to Rosol this year at Wimbledon. Or who would say something during the changeover just to wind the opponent up.

And I don't mean someone who does these things only after mighty provocation. I mean someone who comes out intending to do these things, looking for an opportunity to mess with the opponent's concentration and temper. Someone who would break out Serena's crip walk not only after winning a tournament, but after hitting a winner. Someone who would make each match a crazy circus that would drive the opponent nuts and entertain the crowd royally.

Wouldn't it be great?

Why isn't there some great heel to make tennis entertaining? I don't care if it's on the ATP or WTA. I think it would work wonders, be incredibly entertaining, and have great results. It should preferably be someone who has great touch and a top 10 game.

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Re: Obnoxiousness as a tennis strategy

May be you could add 'barking like an obnoxious fucking dog' in your list as well

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Well it certainly worked tonight.
But it's not entertaining, it distracts the opponent and the audience and leads to lower quality of tennis.
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Re: Obnoxiousness as a tennis strategy

After the rain delay, I'm almost positive that was one of the strategies employed by the Sharapova camp and rightfully so. It made Nadia get nervous and initimidated.
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Imagine, if you will, someone who plays tennis TO the crowd. Someone who goes all Jimmy Connors after every great point. Who taunts the opponent after winners. Who doesn't give a fig about getting along or being liked by the other players. Who takes a bow after touch shots. Someone who behaves like a combination of Mansour Bahrami, McEnroe, Connors, Gilbert, Robin Soderling and Yulia Putintseva.

I'm imagining the sort of person who would kick over Nadal's water bottles; who would imitate Nadal's butt-picking; who would imitate Pova's and Azarenka's shreiking to their faces; who would imitate Pova's stutter-step and fist-pump, or Petra's dog-yip; who would shush a hostile crowd like Berdych did once after beating Nadal, or tell the hecklers "Allez up your effing ass" like Pova once did; who would stand at the service line to receive, like Aga once did to Pova; who would bump into the opponent like Spirlea did to Venus, or Nadal did to Rosol this year at Wimbledon. Or who would say something during the changeover just to wind the opponent up.

And I don't mean someone who does these things only after mighty provocation. I mean someone who comes out intending to do these things, looking for an opportunity to mess with the opponent's concentration and temper. Someone who would break out Serena's crip walk not only after winning a tournament, but after hitting a winner. Someone who would make each match a crazy circus that would drive the opponent nuts and entertain the crowd royally.

Wouldn't it be great?

Why isn't there some great heel to make tennis entertaining? I don't care if it's on the ATP or WTA. I think it would work wonders, be incredibly entertaining, and have great results. It should preferably be someone who has great touch and a top 10 game.
Could you try this in your league or club matches and let us know how it goes.

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After the rain delay, I'm almost positive that was one of the strategies employed by the Sharapova camp and rightfully so. It made Nadia get nervous and initimidated.
And there I thought that was Nadia's brain that got her nervous and intimidated.

Because we certainly know that only some kind of nefarious activity would make HER choke.
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you can't be serious about this. intentionally? going nowhere. if oppo knows your intention, he could file a complaint or choose to ignore, you either get warning or spend your mind on how to irate him futher more, you lose your concentration on the game first, then your oppo get the upper hand.

Even though Pova wass annoying today, you might as well stay cool-minded. Angry lower one's IQ
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Could you try this in your league or club matches and let us know how it goes.
If you had ever seen me play at my club, you would not have bothered to suggest this. I fistpump after netcords.

"I really have friends on the tour, and I'm really happy for it. ...I remember when I was young and someone told my father that I'm too nice for tennis. So I'm just glad that I can be nice off the court and fighting on the court." Petra Kvitova, May 8, 2005

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you can't be serious about this. intentionally? going nowhere. if oppo knows your intention, she could file a complaint or choose to igore, you either get warning or spend your mind on how to irate him futhert more, you lose your concentration on the game first, then your oppo get the upper hand.

Even though Pova wass annoying today, you might as well stay cool-minded. Angry lower one's IQ

Nah, it's not about Pova. She didn't do anything deliberate tonight.

"I really have friends on the tour, and I'm really happy for it. ...I remember when I was young and someone told my father that I'm too nice for tennis. So I'm just glad that I can be nice off the court and fighting on the court." Petra Kvitova, May 8, 2005

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And there I thought that was Nadia's brain that got her nervous and intimidated.

Because we certainly know that only some kind of nefarious activity would make HER choke.
Of course and it urged it on more. It was the right play.
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May be you could add 'barking like an obnoxious fucking dog' in your list as well
Yes, by all means.

Oh, and change one's "come on!" to "pome", "allez," "vamos," or "pojd" depending on the language of the opponent.

"I really have friends on the tour, and I'm really happy for it. ...I remember when I was young and someone told my father that I'm too nice for tennis. So I'm just glad that I can be nice off the court and fighting on the court." Petra Kvitova, May 8, 2005

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you can't be serious about this. intentionally? going nowhere.

There are some players who really feed on energy from the crowd, and it is in their interest to work the crowd and get them excited by being extra-demonstrative or even engaging in dialogue with the crowd. For such players, a small investment in crowd interaction would pay dividends in the match.

"I really have friends on the tour, and I'm really happy for it. ...I remember when I was young and someone told my father that I'm too nice for tennis. So I'm just glad that I can be nice off the court and fighting on the court." Petra Kvitova, May 8, 2005

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Yulia Putintseva doesn't employ obnoxiousness as a strategy. That's just how she is.

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