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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Aug 30th, 2012, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
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Oh please Graf was better than Serena

She'd never ever lose to people like Makarova and much less to scrubs like Razzano I'm sorry, she'd also wouldnt get killed in a slam final by anyone (much less someone like Stosur). she was a true goat and had a rival (Seles) who's much better than any rival serena has had in her career.
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Ty for that, now go away.
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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

Do I take the bait?

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She'd never ever lose to people like Makarova and much less to scrubs like Razzano I'm sorry, she'd also wouldnt get killed in a slam final by anyone (much less someone like Stosur). she was a true goat and had a rival (Seles) who's much better than any rival serena has had in her career.
Vinas?

Serena really isn't that lacking in strength of schedule.
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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

Duh. Nobody seriously objectively thinks Serena is greater than Graf .
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Duh. Nobody seriously objectively thinks Serena is greater than Graf .
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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

Pressed.

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"But every sport improves dramatically every three-to-five years, and I think we've see that in the sport of tennis. These guys just keep getting better and better. There's no comparison between what guys are doing now to 10 years ago"
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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

Ok, I will!

Serena has repeatedly come back and won slams, including Wimbledon and Olympic Golds in singles and doublesback to back from: murder of her sister, near fatal injuries, beating all the top players to do so. Before her last injury which could have cost her her life she was No 1 and destroying the field. Her latest massive achievement has been in her 30s with no signs of her not continuing to win slams if she keeps motivated.

Steffi profitted from one of the most terrible incidents in tennis allowing her to nearly double her slam tally. Not so with Serena who won when there was a full field.

Both are great, but Serena (and Venus) also had each other to compete against and are truly iconic beyond the sport itself. I think their impact on and off the court is more than any other female tennis players.

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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

NaNaSlam - this thread is not even funny..... and it was discussed innumerous times just after Serena's win at Wimbledon/Olympics.
What is the reason for opening new thread?

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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

Who's this guy? Right now there's no way of Serena being greater than Graf.

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Re: Oh please Graf was better than Serena

What is the reason for this post? Is anyone claiming otherwise? I suppose - someone will always regard the most merited active player as greatest of all time. When the Williamses retire, there will undoubtedly be votes for Sharapova as GOAT. Or anyone else who has suddenly started winning.

The true question, of course, is whether Court and/or Navratilova is greater than Graf. Here opinions will be more divided. But they are - together with Evert - unquestionably top 4.
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