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View Poll Results: How / Why Did Maria Improve ??? (Multiple Choice)
Maria Improved Her Movement On Clay 47 57.32%
Maria Learned To Push 12 14.63%
Thomas Hoggie Hogstedt Deserves Credit 23 28.05%
Maria Hitting With More Topspin Than Before 19 23.17%
Maria Took Lessons from Peak Pierce (Another BBB That Conquered Paris) 9 10.98%
Maria Improved Her Serve 22 26.83%
She Did Not Improve ... The Overall Level of SEWTA Is Down Esp. With Retire of JuJu 27 32.93%
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post #1 of 51 (permalink) Old Jun 1st, 2012, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
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How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

Ma$ha used to suck on clay, including the beatings she took at the hands of Ivanovic and Cibulkova barely winning any games



but last year she was the favorite to complete her career Grand Slam by winning RG 2011 until NaNa upset her and now she is the favorite to win RG 2012


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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

hard work

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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

jinx, Na-Mug?

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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

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jinx, Na-Mug?
ahead of Maria v Shuai

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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

you know dinara safina story don't ya?


let's see if she can win roland garros.


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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

Maria never was as bad on clay as people made her out to be.
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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

Yep, Peak Pierce gave her some hardcore clay court lesson

but nice attempt to jinx, btw

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Hard work + she's not that much better on clay, the tour just isn't good enough to beat her on it.

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Peak Pierce

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Hard work + she's not that much better on clay, the tour just isn't good enough to beat her on it.
yes with the retirements of the CLAY-GOATS Henin and Safina

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Maria never was as bad on clay as people made her out to be.
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if you look at her win/loss on clay pre-injury, it was one of the best in WTA
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Hard work. But she's not yet the outright favourite. That is Li.

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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

that goat looks fake. is that on purpose?


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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

ehh Martha was never bad on clay. It wasn't as if she was losing to clay mugs
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Re: How Did Ma$ha Transform from COW-ON-ICE to GOAT-ON-CLAY

She used to wear down when she made FO runs and now she has much more stamina. Thats also a big thing in her Premier wins on clay. She's still strong after 3, 4 matches
Also with no Justine or Dinara, the field is much weaker.

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