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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old May 29th, 2012, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

In recent years, since the LTA and Wimbledon authorities introduced a new rule, effectively banning Brits ranked outside the top 250 from receiving main draw wild cards (still in force this year), the door has been effectively opened to non-Brits to receive wild cards, making Wimbledon the only grand slam where the majority of wild cards can go to foreign players. One tradition introduced has been to give the previous year's junior champion a wild card into the main draw or sometimes, the qualifying draw.

Last year's junior champion, Ashleigh Barty of Australia, is in line for this WC. So do you think that as a talented junior, she deserves a main draw wild card or given the fact that she is ranked outside the top 250, has gained most of her ranking points in low grade Aussie $25ks, and has received a MDWC for the last two slams, that she should only get a QWC this time or not one at all.

Personally, I think today's abysmal performance against Petra Kvitova confirms that she is not yet main draw GS standard and should only receive a QWC. What do you think?
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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

You do realise she lost to Kvitova who is #4 in the world? I do get your point though, but it's not like she would lose that badly to most of the players. She did quite well at the Australian Open against Tatishvili. She should get at least a QWC. Maybe three MWCs into Grand Slams in a row would be a bit too much.
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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

All her WTA matches I seen she played terrible, very nervous and many DFs. But she plays much better in lower events.

I think give her a QWC, where she can start to settle in a bit more.
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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

a) She's 16
b) This was probably the biggest match of her life, against a current GS champion on probably the biggest stadium she has ever played on.
c) Her worst surface is clay while grass appears to be her best
d) She is still limited in the number of tournaments she plays, which doesn't help with matchplay/form
e) She would probably beat plenty of Brits in line for a wild-card, especially on grass
f) She got 3 games against the World #4 and Wimbledon champion. Britain's Baltacha, in the MD for Wimbledon, got 4 games against the World #6 and US Open champion...
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No WC, she was completely hapless today and showed no signs of imposing her game even towards the end of the match when she had nothing to lose.
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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

I think it's a bit counterproductive to give a talented young player a huge string of MDWCs before she's really ready to take advantage.

Give her a QWC.
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A QWC is better I think

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At the last option. Its kind of mean though, she is just 16, she probably had nerves.
She should atleast get a QWC from winning Wimby Juniors last year.

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She face no.4 in the world..

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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

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a) She's 16
b) This was probably the biggest match of her life, against a current GS champion on probably the biggest stadium she has ever played on.
c) Her worst surface is clay while grass appears to be her best
d) She is still limited in the number of tournaments she plays, which doesn't help with matchplay/form
e) She would probably beat plenty of Brits in line for a wild-card, especially on grass
f) She got 3 games against the World #4 and Wimbledon champion. Britain's Baltacha, in the MD for Wimbledon, got 4 games against the World #6 and US Open champion...
Only c) is a good reason for her being given a MDWC. You virtually admit that she is not ready by a), b) and d). f) is irrelevant, she only won 3 games v Petra due to Petra's errors as she only hit 3 winners to 26 unforced errors in her match. e) is also irrelevant as only Robson and Broady will get MDWCs and they are established members of the top 200 rather than the level of player like Barty who needs wild cards to get into grand slam qualifying events.
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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

I think the biggest argument against giving Barty a MDWC is that she has already had MDWCs at RG and the AO. And there is a pretty decent chance with the deals the Australian, French and US Federations have that she could end up with a US Open MDWC as well. To be this is actually a pretty reasonable argument. Barty is good, but no one should have a calendar Grand Slam of MDWCs. No one.

While with Wimbledon's 250 ranking cut off for giving Brits WCs, which except in exceptional circumstances I agree with, Wimby definately does have MDWCs to spare, I think they should go elsewhere and I wouldn't give Barty one. She's had enough. Obviously she deserves a QWC however. It would be totally wrong not to have the junior champion in the draw at all.

For the record, had Barty not had MDWCs to the two previous slams I would be totally in favour of her getting one to Wimbledon.

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Re: Should Wimbledon authorities give Ash Barty a MDWC, a QWC or no WC? Vote now:

I will add one more comment. If Barty does not get a MDWC that doesn't mean they should instead give it to lower ranked British girls who wouldn't have a chance in hell of winning a match either.

Robson and Broady full deserve MDWCs. Watson obviously too but I'm pretty sure she will get in without needing one. The rest of the Brits do not.

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I think the biggest argument against giving Barty a MDWC is that she has already had MDWCs at RG and the AO. And there is a pretty decent chance with the deals the Australian, French and US Federations have that she could end up with a US Open MDWC as well. To be this is actually a pretty reasonable argument. Barty is good, but no one should have a calendar Grand Slam of MDWCs. No one.

While with Wimbledon's 250 ranking cut off for giving Brits WCs, which except in exceptional circumstances I agree with, Wimby definately does have MDWCs to spare, I think they should go elsewhere and I wouldn't give Barty one. She's had enough. Obviously she deserves a QWC however. It would be totally wrong not to have the junior champion in the draw at all.

For the record, had Barty not had MDWCs to the two previous slams I would be totally in favour of her getting one to Wimbledon.
You are absolutely 100% and totally right! This is a very good point and it looks like this will happen, which in my view, would be a travesty. There's loads of bright young players who won't get the chance of any MDWCs at slams, especially those not from Australia, France, USA or Great Britain, so they should step in line in front of Barty for the MDWC at Wimbledon in my opinion.
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